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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/mod_cold_room

[Question] DHL — what am I missing here

Question Long Haul ×8 Well Actually ×1

Trying to get a straight answer on this: DHL — what am I missing here.

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

Kept a spreadsheet of quoted versus actual across a year. The quote held; the variance was all in the last mile.

Ordered from the warehouse in the UK instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared. 8 days, door to door.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/vito_beaulieu288 points·1 year ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/nikhil_asante418 points·1 year ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/dhl_or_bustMOD169 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

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u/priya_palacios203 points·1 year ago·edited

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/week_one_wanda-24 points·1 year ago

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain1 point·1 year ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/nausea_notesside effects52 points·1 year ago

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

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u/marisol_moreau32 points·1 year ago

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain24 points·1 year ago

declared value and description are the shipper’s decision, ask what they use

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u/emil_agyeman142 points·1 year ago

Same lane in a different season for comparison?

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u/vikram_mbeki35 points·1 year ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/karim_hartmann51 points·1 year ago·edited

Asked MKM which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/lina_adebayo11 points·1 year ago

How many shipments does your figure cover?

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u/marta_trevino7 points·1 year ago

Careful — the supplier does not control the last mile and most of your variance is in it.

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u/mod_cold_roomOPmod · c/coldchain3 points·1 year ago

Same lane, four orders, 3 to 21 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/marisol_moreau23 points·1 year ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/transit_variance18 points·1 year ago

no tracking numbers, ever

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u/runa_wikstrom76 points·1 year ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/cato_girard0 points·1 year ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/annika_fonseca1 point·1 year ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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u/sanne_laurent61 points·1 year ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/line_demir21 points·1 year ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics13 points·1 year ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

line_demir is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/marta_trevino13 points·1 year ago·edited

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/teodor_szabo16 points·1 year ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/valeria_karlsen35 points·1 year ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/runa_wikstrom27 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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