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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/zaid_balogun

how much of what we believe about lane actually comes from shipping threads

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Asking properly rather than in a comment on somebody else’s thread: how much of what we believe about lane actually comes from shipping threads.

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/marisol_moreau457 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/laila_wojcik304 points·1 year ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/lina_adebayo161 points·1 year ago

Median transit is the useful statistic.

laila_wojcik is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/lukas_delgado127 points·1 year ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/zaid_balogunOP72 points·1 year ago·edited

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/joaquin_stanescu65 points·1 year ago

6 days on a lane quoted at 7 is the shape you want

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u/ireland_drugs_pay23 points·1 year ago

declared value and description are the shipper’s decision, ask what they use

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u/fatima_asante16 points·1 year ago

Same lane in a different season for comparison?

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u/nils_tulloch263 points·1 year ago·edited

Same lane, four orders, 8 to 16 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/zaid_balogunOP380 points·1 year ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/graph_it_gary0 points·1 year ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/piotr_grimaldi1 point·1 year ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/blank_injection160 points·1 year ago

Small fix — shipped from the regional warehouse, not from origin, which is why the number looks unusual.

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u/dhl_or_bustMOD133 points·1 year ago

Tracking number redacted. No exceptions on this one — it identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/kian_ekstrom91 points·1 year ago

no tracking numbers, ever

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u/zaid_balogunOP54 points·1 year ago·edited

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/nikhil_teixeira18 points·1 year ago

reship policy in writing before you order

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month. Without it the report is not comparable to anything.

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u/vikram_mbeki-13 points·1 year ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/amara_haddad87 points·1 year ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/nils_ferreira31 points·1 year ago

the last mile is where most of the variance lives

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u/quiet_reader_9946 points·1 year ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/not_my_main_nm12 points·1 year ago

the median is more useful than the fastest anybody ever got

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u/ismael_pires9 points·1 year ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/enzo_ferrari35 points·1 year ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/freya_baptista29 points·1 year ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/lina_adebayo19 points·1 year ago·edited

Correcting myself: 9 days, not the figure I posted upthread. I was counting from the order date rather than dispatch.

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u/kian_ekstrom12 points·1 year ago·edited

a lane with four reports is not yet a lane

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u/enzo_ferrari6 points·1 year ago

summer and winter are different lanes with the same name

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u/nora_ramos73 points·1 year ago

the lane is the unit of analysis, not the supplier

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[removed]54 points·1 year ago

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