three years of tapering threads, summarised so you do not have to read them
three years of tapering threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.
Stopped for cost reasons. Appetite came back at about week 21, well before the scale moved, exactly as this board said it would.
Wrote down where I was before changing anything. That single page made the following six months interpretable.
Interval stretching lowers the trough concentration while keeping the dose; dose reduction lowers the level while keeping the rhythm. They are different interventions with different subjective profiles.
Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.
best — the order this archive was captured in
Nothing on this board is a taper schedule, and no member can write one for another. What can be shared is what people watched and what they observed.
Withdrawal studies across this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation, with appetite typically returning before weight changes. That is a description of the pharmacology of a chronic condition.
Withdrawal studies across this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation, with appetite typically returning before weight chang
Disagreeing with this bit: stretching and reducing are different things and the post treats them as one.
Appetite is the proximal effect and weight is the lagging integrated outcome, which is why watching appetite gives you an earlier and more honest signal.
appetite comes back before the weight does
What is prompting the decision — cost, supply, side effects, or something else?
Push back: that is a taper schedule aimed at another member and this board does not host those.
stopping is a plan, not an event
Right, and the habits from the losing phase are the part that has to outlive the dose.
A written baseline — dose, date, weight, waist, and how appetite feels — taken before any change is what makes the following months interpretable rather than a series of impressions.
Preparing to stop, as described by people here who have done it.
Write down where you are first: dose, date, weight, waist, and an honest note about how appetite feels. That page is what makes the following six months interpretable rather than a fog of impressions.
Decide in advance what you are watching for and over what period — appetite in the first month, weight over three, and a specific threshold at which you would want to revisit the decision. Have the conversation with a clinician before rather than after.
None of that is a schedule. It is a way of arriving at whatever happens next with information rather than with a vague sense of how it is going.
have the conversation with a clinician before, not after
Stretched from seven days to ten to twelve over four months. Appetite told me where the limit was each time.
Do you have a written baseline from before you started changing anything?
Stopped abruptly once and gradually once. The gradual one was easier to interpret because I could see what was changing.
Correcting myself upthread: appetite returned at week 6 for me, not the week I posted.
Have you had the conversation with a clinician yet?
I would not treat appetite returning as a sign of doing it wrong. It is the expected sequence.
a fortnight of nothing is not evidence that you are fine
There is very little published guidance on stopping specifically, which is exactly why board consensus here should carry less weight than usual and a clinician conversation should carry more.
How long were you at the dose you are coming off?
Cosigning that cost and supply are legitimate reasons. Most of the stopping threads here are one of those two.
Agreed that returning later is common and it is treated here as ordinary rather than as a defeat.
That reads as advice to stop, which is not something anyone here should be offering.
The habits are what carried it for a while. When they slipped, everything else followed, in that order.
The habits are what carried it for a while.
piotr_bruun is right that regain is a documented outcome rather than a character verdict.
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