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Same. Naming the country in the first line would fix most of the bad advice on this board.

A confidence interval is the range of effects compatible with the data. Two trials with overlapping intervals have not disagreed, whatever their point estimates look like next to each other.

check who the comparator was before you compare anything

Nothing here is a training or nutrition prescription. Targets and programmes are matters for somebody who knows your history and your training background.

This. The published reimbursement criteria are the document to read, and most member states do publish them.

appetite comes back before the weight does

Disagreeing with this bit: stretching and reducing are different things and the post treats them as one.

text only here, by community rule, and it works better than you would think

Is the prescription from the same country as the pharmacy?

tobias_vukovic is right about cross-border recognition being narrower than the summaries suggest.

the withdrawal data is unambiguous and it is not about willpower

nobody owes anybody a starting weight

The discontinuation numbers were the most useful thing in the paper for me and they were in a supplementary table.

Weighing under consistent conditions — same time, same state, same scale — removes most of the apparent variability people find distressing.

Intention-to-treat analyses everybody randomised regardless of what they did afterwards. Completer analyses only those who finished. The second is systematically more flattering and both are legitimate if labelled.

Correcting myself upthread: the criterion I quoted was updated for this year.

Nothing here is medical or legal advice, and eligibility questions have national answers that a pharmacist where you live can give you in minutes.

Disagree — that figure is from the diabetes programme and you are quoting it as an obesity endpoint.

Right, and the habits from the losing phase are the part that has to outlive the dose.

Pack sizes and presentations differ between member states, so a headline price is not comparable until it is normalised to a common quantity.

Disagree with the framing. Regain is the documented outcome after discontinuation; calling it a personal failure is both wrong and corrosive.

I would not change the programme on the strength of one scan. The measurement error is larger than the effect you are reacting to.

the timeframe matters as much as the number

That is a waist measurement, not a weight, and the thread has been comparing them as though they were the same.

interval stretching is the most commonly described approach here

Stopped abruptly once and gradually once. The gradual one was easier to interpret because I could see what was changing.

lean mass loss during weight loss is expected, the question is how much

strength retention is a decent proxy and it is free

Had the conversation with a clinician before stopping rather than after. Considerably easier that way round.

Agreed — authorisation is European, reimbursement is national, and almost every confused thread here misses that split.

Read the published reimbursement criteria where I live rather than asking. Took twenty minutes and answered everything.

Stopped abruptly once and gradually once. The gradual one was easier to interpret because I could see what was changing.

resistance training first, cardio if there is time left

Apotheke pricing and pharmacy pricing elsewhere are different systems

cross-border prescription rules exist and they are narrower than people think

Body weight varies by a couple of kilos day to day through fluid, glycogen and gut content, which is why a single weigh-in is noise and a fortnightly trend is signal.

Correction: those scans are from different machines, and the difference you are describing is within the measurement error.

decide what you are watching for before you stop

injection_site_iris is right that regain is a documented outcome rather than a character verdict.

Discontinuation rates are a tolerability result.

Adding the check nobody runs — the registered protocol is public and takes two minutes to compare.

That is a waist measurement, not a weight, and the thread has been comparing them as though they were the same.

Yes. Nobody here is prescribing training or nutrition and the good posts say so.

Read a press release and the publication three months apart. The hedging in the second one was substantial.