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c/intlshipping·posted 2 years ago by u/fridge_door_no

DHL is the most under-discussed thing on this board

Question Cold Box ×6 The Quiet One ×1

Thinking out loud about this: DHL is the most under-discussed thing on this board.

The regional stock question, and why it is the first thing I ask now.

If a supplier holds the line you want in a warehouse in your own region, your order is a domestic shipment. No international leg, no clearance, a shorter cold exposure and a lead time in days rather than weeks. If they do not, it is an international shipment however it is described at checkout.

So the question is not "how fast do you ship" but "which lines do you hold in regional stock, and is the one I want among them". It is one email, the answer is usually a list, and it changes what to order and when — especially in summer.

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/wholesome_lurker103 points·2 years ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/nikhil_asante72 points·2 years ago

ask which lines are actually held in the regional warehouse

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u/farid_jansen35 points·2 years ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

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u/arne_fontaine19 points·2 years ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month. Without it the report is not comparable to anything.

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u/zaid_balogun14 points·2 years ago

A quoted lead time is a commitment you can evaluate. Measuring quoted against actual across several orders tells you more about an operation than the raw speed does.

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u/amara_haddad27 points·2 years ago

rigid outer packaging is the cheapest quality signal there is

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u/fridge_door_noOP11 points·2 years ago

Adding the field everyone forgets — the month.

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/blank_injection7 points·2 years ago

What was the packaging like on arrival?

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u/runa_cabrera0 points·2 years ago

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/kenji_kimani16 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the seasonality point. February and August on the same lane are different animals.

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u/fridge_door_noOP41 points·2 years ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/mikkel_correia51 points·2 years ago

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation. Worth posting, worth separating.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition15 points·2 years ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/freya_baptista7 points·2 years ago

the median is more useful than the fastest anybody ever got

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u/vomit_free_since34 points·2 years ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/fridge_door_noOP15 points·2 years ago

the last mile is where most of the variance lives

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u/neha_mwangi5 points·2 years ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

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u/lane_watcherMOD32 points·2 years ago

Left up and added to the lane table. All four required fields were present, which is rarer than it should be.

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u/hedda_adeyemi20 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/honest_syringe_pls14 points·2 years ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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u/nikhil_teixeira9 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by four data points.

hedda_adeyemi is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/milan_chukwu6 points·2 years ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/annika_fonseca17 points·2 years ago

Same. TFC quoted 6 days on my lane and it landed at 14, which is exactly what you want from a quote.

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u/laila_wojcik9 points·2 years ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/dhl_or_bust4 points·2 years ago·edited

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/marisol_moreau14 points·2 years ago

Small fix — shipped from the regional warehouse, not from origin, which is why the number looks unusual.

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u/mariam_cabrera7 points·2 years ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/farid_jansen3 points·2 years ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/arne_fontaine4 points·2 years ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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