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c/intlshipping·posted 23 days ago by u/line_demir

[Data] packaging quality by vendor, scored on five things, 60 shipments

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Something I keep coming back to: packaging quality by vendor, scored on five things, 60 shipments.

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

The regional stock question, and why it is the first thing I ask now.

If a supplier holds the line you want in a warehouse in your own region, your order is a domestic shipment. No international leg, no clearance, a shorter cold exposure and a lead time in days rather than weeks. If they do not, it is an international shipment however it is described at checkout.

So the question is not "how fast do you ship" but "which lines do you hold in regional stock, and is the one I want among them". It is one email, the answer is usually a list, and it changes what to order and when — especially in summer.

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

Ask me anything specific. Anything general I will probably get wrong.

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u/ismael_varga-1 point·22 days ago

A lane is an origin, a destination, a carrier and a season. Change any one and the distribution changes, which is why supplier-level shipping averages are close to meaningless.

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u/ignacio_vanhecke1 point·22 days ago

the last mile is where most of the variance lives

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u/mei_serrano1 point·21 days ago

a lane with four reports is not yet a lane

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u/samir_falk58 points·23 days ago

Asked MKM which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/nikhil_asante37 points·22 days ago·edited

Same lane, four orders, 6 to 11 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/soren_yildiz29 points·22 days ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/archived_thread_a23 points·22 days ago

Same. SSA quoted 19 days on my lane and it landed at 8, which is exactly what you want from a quote.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition17 points·22 days ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/marta_dziedzic9 points·22 days ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/cato_girard3 points·22 days ago

reship policy in writing before you order

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u/wholesome_lurker17 points·22 days ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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u/priya_palacios12 points·22 days ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/renzo_asante4 points·22 days ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/line_demirOP2 points·22 days ago

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

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u/niels_yilmaz2 points·21 days ago

regional stock changes everything about transit

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u/fatima_asante4 points·22 days ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/line_demirOP3 points·22 days ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/matias_salgado2 points·21 days ago

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time.

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/line_demirOP24 points·22 days ago·edited

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/emil_marchand47 points·23 days ago

Median transit is the useful statistic. The minimum is a story about one shipment and the mean is dragged around by a single hold.

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u/laila_wojcik0 points·23 days ago

Median transit is the useful statistic.

This is why the lane table is organised the way it is. The supplier is not the unit.

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u/graph_it_gary24 points·23 days ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/joaquin_stanescu20 points·23 days ago

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one. That is a structural change to the distribution, not a marginal improvement, and it is why the warehouse question matters more than the carrier question.

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u/nabila_ogunleye12 points·23 days ago·edited

Regional stock replaces an international lane with a domestic one.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/cato_girard11 points·23 days ago

Right, and the last mile is where my variance has always come from, not the international leg.

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u/annika_fonseca4 points·22 days ago

Yes — median rather than best case. The fastest anybody ever got is not a plan.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution2 points·22 days ago

Yes — median rather than best case.

annika_fonseca is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/niels_yilmaz2 points·22 days ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics3 points·22 days ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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