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c/intlshipping·posted 2 years ago by u/lane_watcher

DHL — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right

Question Slow Clap ×1 Well Actually ×3 Clean Column ×2

DHL — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/nils_tulloch821 points·2 years ago

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/honest_syringe_pls575 points·2 years ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/laila_wojcik554 points·2 years ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/milan_mensah459 points·2 years ago

This. A quoted lead time that holds is worth more than a fast one that does not.

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u/cato_girard147 points·2 years ago

4 days on a lane quoted at 6 is the shape you want

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u/nabila_ogunleye342 points·2 years ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/line_demir-18 points·2 years ago

summer and winter are different lanes with the same name

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u/renzo_asante445 points·2 years ago

Yes — median rather than best case. The fastest anybody ever got is not a plan.

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u/sanne_laurent325 points·2 years ago

What was the packaging like on arrival?

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u/yannick_petrov0 points·2 years ago

How many shipments does your figure cover?

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics1 point·2 years ago

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation. Worth posting, worth separating.

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u/freya_baptista1 point·2 years ago·edited

That is a packaging observation, not a transit observation.

Disagreeing with this bit: a single slow shipment does not move a lane, it joins the distribution.

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u/annika_fonseca176 points·2 years ago

Origin, destination, carrier and month?

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u/kian_ekstrom228 points·2 years ago·edited

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/dhl_or_bust257 points·2 years ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/lane_watcherOPmod · logistics107 points·2 years ago

Do they publish a reship policy, and did you read it before ordering?

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u/wholesome_lurker57 points·2 years ago

Yes — regional stock is the single biggest variable and it barely gets mentioned outside this board.

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u/kian_ekstrom17 points·2 years ago

origin, destination, carrier, month — post all four or the report is noise

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u/chidi_demir12 points·2 years ago

What lead time were you quoted at checkout?

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u/vito_beaulieu169 points·2 years ago

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/freya_baptista118 points·2 years ago

Asked QSC which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/archived_thread_a156 points·2 years ago

a lane with four reports is not yet a lane

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u/nora_ramos99 points·2 years ago

Kept a spreadsheet of quoted versus actual across a year. The quote held; the variance was all in the last mile.

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u/naomi_ekstrom58 points·2 years ago

Where did the time actually go — international leg, clearance, or last mile?

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u/runa_cabrera36 points·2 years ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/freya_baptista24 points·2 years ago

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/matias_salgado8 points·2 years ago

Same. WXT quoted 8 days on my lane and it landed at 4, which is exactly what you want from a quote.

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u/lane_watcherOPmod · logistics52 points·2 years ago

Correcting myself: 6 days, not the figure I posted upthread. I was counting from the order date rather than dispatch.

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u/emil_marchand26 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the seasonality point. February and August on the same lane are different animals.

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