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c/intlshipping·posted 1 year ago by u/micro_bump_mick

Spain: DHL, and what it actually costs here

Discussion The Quiet One ×6 Receipts ×2 Clean Column ×1

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: Spain: DHL, and what it actually costs here.

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/nils_tulloch490 points·1 year ago

Four observations is not a distribution. The lane tables here only became predictive once individual routes had a dozen or more reports behind them.

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u/piotr_grimaldi155 points·1 year ago

The rigid outer with no rattle in it was the thing that told me most about that supplier, before I had tested anything.

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u/micro_bump_mickOP88 points·1 year ago

Asked BCH which lines they hold regionally before ordering and got a straight list back. Changed what I ordered and when.

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u/marisol_moreau71 points·1 year ago·edited

Correction: that was clearance time, not carrier time. The lane table separates them for exactly this reason.

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u/renzo_asante386 points·1 year ago·edited

Total transit decomposes into first mile, international leg, clearance and last mile. Only the first two are meaningfully under the shipper’s control and most reported variance sits in the last two.

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u/micro_bump_mickOP248 points·1 year ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/lane_watcherMOD204 points·1 year ago

Asked for the month rather than removing. Without it the report cannot be compared to anything.

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u/micro_bump_mickOP219 points·1 year ago·edited

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/marisol_moreau268 points·1 year ago

Ordered from the warehouse in Ireland instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared. 12 days, door to door.

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u/nils_ferreira225 points·1 year ago

Packaging is assessable on arrival with no equipment: rigid outer, no movement inside, the cold element sized to the transit rather than to the box.

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u/fridge_door_no42 points·1 year ago

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/protein_first_pnutrition10 points·1 year ago·edited

Same lane, four orders, 10 to 20 days, all four within a couple of days of the quote. That consistency is the actual finding.

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u/sten_bhattacharya8 points·1 year ago

Disagree. That is a customs hold, not a carrier delay, and lumping them together makes the lane table wrong.

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u/marta_trevino23 points·1 year ago

Not convinced by four data points. That is not a lane yet, it is an anecdote with a route attached.

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u/sock_puppet_spotter201 points·1 year ago

This. A quoted lead time that holds is worth more than a fast one that does not.

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u/quiet_reader_9988 points·1 year ago·edited

Ordered from the warehouse in Ireland instead of origin and the whole customs question disappeared.

marisol_moreau is right about regional stock. It changes the shape of the distribution, not just the mean.

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u/laila_wojcik-6 points·1 year ago

two identical orders a week apart is the cheapest experiment available

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u/ismael_pires1 point·1 year ago

a quoted lead time you can hold them to is worth more than a fast one you cannot

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u/milan_chukwu1 point·1 year ago

Agreed on rigid packaging. It costs the shipper almost nothing and it predicts a lot about the rest of the operation.

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u/sten_bhattacharya123 points·1 year ago

How many shipments does your figure cover?

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u/matias_salgado56 points·1 year ago

How many shipments does your figure cover?

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/marta_trevino36 points·1 year ago

Agreed. Reporting by lane rather than by supplier is what made the tables here actually predictive.

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