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c/trialwatch·submitted 4 days ago by u/britta_boateng

[Stats] relative risk reduction sells papers, absolute risk reduction makes decisions

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relative risk reduction sells papers, absolute risk reduction makes decisions. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down. The discontinuation numbers were the most useful thing in the paper for me and they were in a supplementary table. Argued for a week about a result and then read the…

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u/oskar_ibarra71 points·2 days ago

Intention-to-treat analyses everybody randomised regardless of what they did afterwards. Completer analyses only those who finished. The second is systematically more flattering and both are legitimate if labelled.

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u/week_one_wanda56 points·2 days ago

Yes — the interval is the finding. A point estimate with a wide interval is a hypothesis in a nice font.

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u/plateau_patrol27 points·2 days ago

read the endpoint before you read the headline

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u/pancreatitis_scare20 points·2 days ago

Agreed on comparators. "Superior" means nothing until you know superior to what and at what dose.

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u/hedda_adeyemi27 points·2 days ago

Went looking for the registered protocol to see whether the endpoint had changed. It had not, which was reassuring and worth checking.

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u/nightowl_injector12 points·2 days ago

SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes, not weight

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u/customs_seizure_sid6 points·2 days ago

open-label extensions are not the same evidence as the randomised phase

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u/rania_salinas4 points·1 days ago

open-label extensions are not the same evidence as the randomised phase

customs_seizure_sid is right about the programme names. They are different populations with different endpoints.

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u/formulary_fighterappeals1 point·1 days ago

Disagree — that figure is from the diabetes programme and you are quoting it as an obesity endpoint.

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