[Vendor] QYB vs HJ on the same compound, same month — both cleared 99.0%
QYB vs HJ on the same compound, same month — both cleared 99.0%. One vial, one service, one member paying, which is the only kind of result this board should treat as evidence. 99.0%. Those are measured, not estimated, and not rounded up in my favour. The escalation schedule in the trials existed to keep people on…
Weight change and appetite change are different endpoints on different timescales. Conflating them is where most of the confusion on this board starts.
Cosigning. The appetite change and the scale change ran about three weeks apart for me too.
On the "everybody ends up at 2.4" claim, which comes up every few weeks.
The escalation schedule in the trials was designed to get people to a fixed study dose. Real use is not a trial. The dose that keeps your appetite quiet with side effects you can live with is the dose, and for a lot of people on this board that has been 1.7mg for a very long time.
The counter-argument, which is fair: some people genuinely do need the top of the range, and staying low out of caution costs them months. That is a conversation with someone who knows your history, not with us.
First month I lost almost nothing and nearly quit. Month two and three were where it all happened.
Minor fix — the half-life is about a week, not about a day. The rest of your point stands.
That figure is the 68-week trial mean, not a weekly rate. Dividing it by the weeks gives you a number that does not mean anything.
if 1.0mg is working there is no prize for going up
Careful. A four-week stall is inside normal variation and treating it as failure is how people escalate for no reason.