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c/semaglutide·posted 1 year ago by u/alcohol_aversion

the Wegovy question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

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the Wegovy question that gets asked weekly, answered properly, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

Delayed gastric emptying is most pronounced early and attenuates with continued dosing, which is why the sulphur burps usually fades at a stable dose.

STEP-1 ran 68 weeks and landed just under 15% mean body weight change on 2.4mg. It is an average of a wide distribution, not a target you have missed.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use, so anything in this thread about how a compounded or research vial "should" behave is a chemistry discussion, not a dosing one.

Not medical advice, obviously, and nothing here is approved for human use. One person with a spreadsheet.

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u/iman_castellanos2.4k points·1 year ago

Weight change and appetite change are different endpoints on different timescales. Conflating them is where most of the confusion on this board starts.

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u/stubborn_batchlist_only1.9k points·1 year ago

Weight change and appetite change are different endpoints on different timescales.

Adding one thing to this: the appetite effect and the scale run on separate clocks, so both halves can be true at once.

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u/ewan_tulloch1k points·1 year ago

Agreed, and the bit people skip is that the ladder is a tolerance ladder. It is not a potency ranking.

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u/kavya_radich460 points·1 year ago

That figure is the 68-week trial mean, not a weekly rate. Dividing it by the weeks gives you a number that does not mean anything.

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u/customs_seizure_sid1.1k points·1 year ago·edited

Same. I sat at 0.5mg for three months because it was working and there was nothing to fix.

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u/alcohol_aversionOP605 points·1 year ago·edited

Minor fix — the half-life is about a week, not about a day. The rest of your point stands.

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u/vikram_mbeki1.1k points·1 year ago·edited

Disagree. 2.4 is the top of the label, not the goal, and "everyone ends up there" is just survivorship in the posts you read.

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u/units_not_mgMOD780 points·1 year ago·edited

Leaving this up. It is a check-in, it has numbers, and it is honest about being one person.

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u/two_mil_or_one612 points·1 year ago

Correct, and worth adding: the trial average is an average. Half the people in it did worse than 15% and were still on the drug.

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u/ewan_tulloch365 points·1 year ago

the food noise going quiet is the effect people actually describe

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u/marit_coelho200 points·1 year ago

staying at 2.4mg for an extra month is a legitimate plan

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u/greta_lokken248 points·1 year ago

the ladder exists because the gut needs the time, not because the pharmacy likes paperwork

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u/kaplan_meier_kim249 points·1 year ago

The mental model that finally made this click for me: there are two curves, and people watch the wrong one.

The first is exposure, which is set by the dose and smoothed by a week-long half-life. It changes when you change the dose and then settles over about a month. The second is body weight, which is exposure filtered through appetite, food, water, sleep, training and the scale itself, and which moves in steps rather than a line.

Almost every "it stopped working" post is somebody watching curve two over a fortnight and drawing conclusions about curve one. If the appetite effect is still there, exposure is fine. Wait the month.

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u/ewan_tulloch82 points·1 year ago

STEP-1 averaged just under 15% at 68 weeks, so a 10% year is not a failure

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u/rohan_steiner151 points·1 year ago

My stall was eleven weeks. Eleven. Then it moved again without me changing anything at all.

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u/hassan_ostergaard122 points·1 year ago

do not chase somebody else’s titration schedule, they are not you

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u/ahmed_okafor101 points·1 year ago

This matches me almost exactly, right down to the reflux showing up on the second day and being gone by the fourth.

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u/alcohol_aversionOP38 points·1 year ago

Did protein intake change in the same window?

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u/alcohol_aversionOP73 points·1 year ago

How long was the stall before you decided it was a stall?

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u/kenji_demir48 points·1 year ago

Small correction: 2.4mg is the maintenance ceiling on the label, not the starting maintenance dose. The distinction matters for anyone reading this later.

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u/alcohol_aversion111 points·1 year ago

On the "everybody ends up at 2.4" claim, which comes up every few weeks.

The escalation schedule in the trials was designed to get people to a fixed study dose. Real use is not a trial. The dose that keeps your appetite quiet with side effects you can live with is the dose, and for a lot of people on this board that has been 0.5mg for a very long time.

The counter-argument, which is fair: some people genuinely do need the top of the range, and staying low out of caution costs them months. That is a conversation with someone who knows your history, not with us.

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