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[Discussion] the long term advice in here is 3 years out of date

Discussion Cold Box ×6 Clean Column ×1 Well Actually ×1

the long term advice in here is 3 years out of date. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

The relevant figures are 3 years, and they come from the same log I have kept the whole time.

None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.

Been at maintenance for 14 months on 2.5mg. Nothing happens. That is the whole report and it took me a while to accept it as success.

Please do not ask me what dose you should be on. I genuinely do not know and neither does anyone else here.

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u/food_noise_goneMOD391 points·1 year ago

Retitled — this is maintenance, not a plateau, and the original framing was doing damage.

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u/ferritin_low-3 points·1 year ago

Retitled — this is maintenance, not a plateau, and the original framing was doing damage.

food_noise_gone is right that stretching and reducing are different levers. Worth separating in every one of these threads.

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u/nnt_nate-4 points·1 year ago

Weigh monthly now. Best change I made in the whole run and it cost nothing.

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u/enzo_danquah1 point·1 year ago

regain after stopping is the expected outcome, not a personal failure

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u/hugo_norgaard1 point·1 year ago

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

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u/hassan_ostergaard290 points·1 year ago

That reads like a taper schedule and this board cannot hand those out.

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u/noor_vermeulen152 points·1 year ago

Drifted up 17kg over a winter and panicked. It came back off without any change, which is apparently just what weight does.

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u/erez_baptista118 points·1 year ago

Dose reduction and interval extension are different interventions. Halving the dose keeps the rhythm and lowers the level; stretching keeps the level and lowers the frequency, with a lower trough.

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