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goal weight — my 23-week log, condensed into one table

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goal weight — my 23-week log, condensed into one table, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

None of this is a taper plan. What dose holds for you is a question for somebody with your history in front of them.

Chased the last three kilos with a dose increase and got a fortnight of reflux and no change in the number.

Wrote down what maintenance would look like at about week 38, before I needed it. Having decided in advance made the transition boring.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/hub_opssite staff713 points·1 year ago·edited

Interval stretching changes the exposure profile: with a week-long half-life, moving to ten or twelve days lowers trough concentration more than it lowers average exposure. That is why appetite return is often the first thing noticed.

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u/ilias_nakamura252 points·1 year ago

That reads like a taper schedule and this board cannot hand those out.

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u/aurel_mwangi563 points·1 year ago

Been at maintenance for 20 months on 2.5mg. Nothing happens. That is the whole report and it took me a while to accept it as success.

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u/fridge_door_no389 points·1 year ago

Maintenance is the phase with the least published guidance and the most individual variation, which is precisely why board consensus here is worth less than usual.

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u/priya_weiss-27 points·1 year ago

the goal weight you picked at week 1 was a guess

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u/mei_serrano1 point·1 year ago

the habits are the part that has to outlive the dose

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u/santiago_lindqvistOP1 point·1 year ago

Is the goal weight still the one you picked at the start?

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u/crosspost_bot_no1 point·1 year ago

stretching the interval is not the same as reducing the dose

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u/kasper_cabrera210 points·1 year ago

Stretched from seven to ten days and then to twelve over about four months. Appetite told me where the limit was before the scale did.

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u/taper_off_tabithaMOD151 points·1 year ago·edited

Retitled — this is maintenance, not a plateau, and the original framing was doing damage.

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u/kasper_cabrera122 points·1 year ago

the lowest effective dose is a real target and nobody talks about it

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u/santiago_ndiaye134 points·1 year ago

Yes. The habits have to outlive the dose or the maintenance phase is just a countdown.

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u/draw_up_dizzy41 points·1 year ago

maintenance is where the logistics finally get boring, which is the point

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u/cesar_oyelaran35 points·1 year ago

Withdrawal studies in this class consistently show substantial regain after discontinuation. That is a pharmacological finding about a chronic condition, not a statement about anyone’s discipline.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim23 points·1 year ago

Correction: that trial measured regain after withdrawal, not failure of the drug during treatment. Very different claim.

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u/santiago_lindqvistOP18 points·1 year ago

maintenance is a phase, not a finish line

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u/aleksi_eriksen118 points·1 year ago

Right — appetite returns before the scale moves, which is the early signal people miss.

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u/hassan_ostergaard38 points·1 year ago

Same. Monthly is plenty at this stage and daily weighing made me miserable for no information gain.

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u/santiago_lindqvistOP29 points·1 year ago

Same.

hassan_ostergaard is right that stretching and reducing are different levers. Worth separating in every one of these threads.

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u/copay_card_cc43 points·1 year ago

Push back: that is not a plateau, that is maintenance. You have arrived and you are describing it as a failure.

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u/mei_serrano0 points·1 year ago

Agreed that a few kilos of drift is ordinary. Weight is not a fixed number even for people who have never taken anything.

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u/ilias_nakamura1 point·1 year ago

the trials that looked at withdrawal are unambiguous about what follows

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u/column_dead_volume0 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on planning it in advance. Deciding what maintenance looks like while still losing is much easier than deciding it in a panic.

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