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c/intlshipping·posted 7 months ago by u/emil_marchand

unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about EMS is guesswork

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Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about EMS is guesswork.

Where the time actually goes, which I got wrong for two years.

Total transit is first mile, international leg, customs clearance and last mile. I had been attributing everything to the international leg because that is the part with the exotic-sounding name.

When I finally logged the stages separately, the international leg was the most consistent part of the whole journey. The variance was in clearance and in the domestic delivery at my end — neither of which the supplier controls. That reframed how I read every lane report on this board, and it is why the table separates the stages.

Why this board reports by lane and not by supplier.

Two members ordering from the same operation, in the same month, can see completely different transit times because they are on different routes with different carriers and different clearance points. Averaging them produces a supplier-level number that predicts nothing for either of them.

A lane — origin, destination, carrier, month — is the smallest thing that behaves consistently enough to be worth measuring. Once a route has a dozen reports behind it the median is genuinely useful, and that is what the tables on the source pages are built from.

Posted my first lane report here without the month and got asked for it. Fair, and the table is better for the fussiness.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/dhl_or_bust315 points·7 months ago

The regional stock question, and why it is the first thing I ask now.

If a supplier holds the line you want in a warehouse in your own region, your order is a domestic shipment. No international leg, no clearance, a shorter cold exposure and a lead time in days rather than weeks. If they do not, it is an international shipment however it is described at checkout.

So the question is not "how fast do you ship" but "which lines do you hold in regional stock, and is the one I want among them". It is one email, the answer is usually a list, and it changes what to order and when — especially in summer.

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u/emil_marchandOP203 points·7 months ago

Clearance took three days and the carrier took nine. I had been blaming the wrong half for two years.

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u/transit_varianceMOD335 points·7 months ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

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u/honest_syringe19224 points·7 months ago

Merged into the standing thread for that lane so the reports accumulate in one place.

Agreed — and the decomposition matters. Most people are blaming the international leg for a last-mile problem.

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u/nikhil_asante53 points·7 months ago

Split one order across two months on purpose to compare summer and winter. Four days apart, same carrier, same route.

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u/enzo_ferrari14 points·7 months ago

I would not read a single slow shipment as a lane change. Post it and let the median move if it is real.

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u/freya_baptista9 points·7 months ago

That is the quoted lead time, not the observed transit. Both belong in the report and they are different columns.

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u/wholesome_lurker108 points·7 months ago

Push back: comparing a July transit with a February one on the same lane is not a comparison.

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u/mei_serrano84 points·7 months ago

the lane is the unit of analysis, not the supplier

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u/micro_bump_mick69 points·7 months ago

This. A quoted lead time that holds is worth more than a fast one that does not.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution210 points·7 months ago

ask which lines are actually held in the regional warehouse

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u/greta_perrin270 points·7 months ago

Was it shipped from a regional warehouse or from origin?

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u/samir_falk182 points·7 months ago

customs clearance time is not carrier time and they get conflated

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