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c/trialwatch·submitted 3 months ago by u/yara_mensah

[Question] endpoint — what am I missing here

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endpoint — what am I missing here. I would rather ask a basic question now than get this wrong quietly for two months. Spent an evening with the appendix tables and found the subgroup detail that the entire thread had been speculating about. Quoted a figure here confidently, got asked whether it was ITT, went and…

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u/forest_plot_fionastats114 points·3 months ago·edited

Careful with that mean. The distribution around it was wide enough that it describes very few individual participants.

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u/careful_gradient_again49 points·3 months ago

Yes. The appendix tables are where the subgroup and the adverse event detail actually live.

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u/nayeli_fonseca58 points·3 months ago

Intention-to-treat analyses everybody randomised regardless of what they did afterwards. Completer analyses only those who finished. The second is systematically more flattering and both are legitimate if labelled.

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u/sten_palacios27 points·3 months ago·edited

Intention-to-treat analyses everybody randomised regardless of what they did afterwards.

Agreed. And the interval, not the point estimate, is what the trial actually established.

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u/milan_villalobos8 points·3 months ago

the confidence interval is the finding, the point estimate is the headline

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u/anders_karlsen13 points·3 months ago

a mean is not a promise

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u/nightowl_injector17 points·3 months ago

a press release is not a publication

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u/rt_shift_reggie25 points·3 months ago

Open-label extensions lose their randomisation. Anybody still enrolled at week 104 is a selected group and the numbers describe that group.

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u/week_one_wanda11 points·3 months ago

phase 2 finds a dose, phase 3 measures the effect

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