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c/meta·posted 1 year ago by u/rasmus_kuipers

someone explain moderation to me like I have not read a paper in years

Discussion The Quiet One ×4

someone explain moderation to me like I have not read a paper in years — that is what I am asking, and I have already read the wiki twice.

Funding and links, in full, because the question deserves a straight answer.

Sponsor units are labelled as sponsored. Each vendor source page carries one outbound link to that supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, so you can read their account of themselves against the record on the page. Nothing is received for those links, no supplier pays for a directory position, and no rating is for sale.

No referral or affiliate links are permitted anywhere on the site, from anybody, including in the pricing threads where the temptation is highest. That rule is the reason those threads are worth reading, and it is enforced without exception. The full version of all of this is on the about page and it is deliberately boring.

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/marit_mwangi217 points·1 year ago

The evidence standard on the vendor boards requires a document, a date or a named service behind any claim about a supplier. It is what makes those threads worth reading years later.

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u/hub_opsMOD121 points·1 year ago

Adopted with an amendment, announced with the reasoning. Thank you for writing actual text.

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u/hassan_castellanos62 points·1 year ago

sponsor disclosure is on the about page in full

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u/hedda_aguirre143 points·1 year ago

That is the controversial ordering, not the hot one. Different formula, different behaviour.

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u/sanne_laurent-2 points·1 year ago

the wiki is editable by anybody with standing on the site

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u/ines_boateng35 points·1 year ago

removals get explained publicly where the rule allows it

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u/kenji_demir11 points·1 year ago

the ranking formula is published, go and read it

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u/tomas_lundgren3 points·1 year ago

nobody here is paid, including the moderators

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u/zeynep_duarte2 points·1 year ago

Push back: the ranking is not hiding anything. The formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering.

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u/ismael_varga69 points·1 year ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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u/chain_confirm_cpayments151 points·1 year ago

Argued against the strict evidence rule for a year. Then read a supplier thread on another site and stopped arguing.

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u/kenji_vasquez92 points·1 year ago

Edited a wiki page for the first time and nothing bad happened, which is apparently the point.

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u/camila_kowalski100 points·1 year ago

rule-change proposals need a concrete wording, not a complaint

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u/sanne_novak46 points·1 year ago·edited

rule-change proposals need a concrete wording, not a complaint

Adding the practical note — the formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering yourself.

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u/dilara_nyberg71 points·1 year ago

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments. That keeps a three-year-old thread from being reopened with a reply nobody will see in context.

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u/joaquin_ivaturi40 points·1 year ago

Submissions older than a year are archived: readable, linkable, and closed to new comments.

Disagreeing with this bit: making individual cases public by default is worse for the person being moderated.

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u/zeynep_duarte28 points·1 year ago

Vendor source pages carry an outbound link to the supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, disclosed on the page and again on the funding page. Nothing is received for it.

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u/enzo_fonseca13 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on the no-links rule. It is the only reason the pricing threads are trustworthy.

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