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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/teodor_jansen

[Question] Janoshik — what am I missing here

Discussion Slow Clap ×2 Long Haul ×1 Well Actually ×3

Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: Janoshik — what am I missing here.

A series across separate lots estimates a process. Repeat tests on one lot estimate the measurement. Both are useful and they answer different questions.

Date of analysis anchors the result to a manufacturing period. A two-year-old result is evidence about two years ago and should be read that way.

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/nayeli_iyer574 points·1 year ago

If the report gives a mass spectrum as well as UV purity, say so. Identity and relative quantity are separate claims and the log tracks both.

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u/camila_mensa844 points·1 year ago

The template is vendor, compound, batch, service, claim, result, and who paid. Every one of those fields exists because a result missing it has been argued about here before.

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u/yara_bakken560 points·1 year ago

Small fix — same supplier, different lot. The two rows in the log are not the same batch.

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u/ravi_sandvik646 points·1 year ago

one result is a data point, agreement between two services is evidence

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u/honest_syringe303 points·1 year ago

one result is a data point, agreement between two services is evidence

Adding the boring but useful bit: say whether you paid for it. It is the basis of the whole log.

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u/meera_sandvik208 points·1 year ago

inter-lab variance runs a point or two, plan your outrage accordingly

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u/tomas_lundgren429 points·1 year ago

I would not post that as a finding. It is a single result and the template asks you to say so.

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u/medutest_melMOD222 points·1 year ago

Left up and added to the vendor source page log. Thanks for paying for it and posting it.

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u/kavya_radich264 points·1 year ago

This. The trend across separate lots is the number that tells you about a process rather than a vial.

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u/wholesome_lurker71 points·1 year ago

Is that the same lot as the one in the thread from last month?

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u/insulin_syringe_ian107 points·1 year ago

Same. The SSA results have been sitting in a tight band across lots, which is the useful shape.

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u/teodor_jansenOP63 points·1 year ago

Same.

Agreed — and two services on one batch is the strongest thing any of us can produce individually.

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[removed]74 points·1 year ago

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u/throwaway_44b152 points·1 year ago

Yes. Two services on the same batch is the strongest thing an individual member can produce, and it is not expensive.

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u/santiago_rasmussen289 points·1 year ago

Area percent and net peptide content are different measurements and most reports give one. Quote which, or the comparison downstream is meaningless.

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u/anders_vermeulen75 points·1 year ago·edited

Split one vial between Janoshik and VendorInvestigate. The two numbers were within half a point of each other and I stopped worrying about which lab to trust.

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u/usp_appendixcompendial49 points·1 year ago

the log is cumulative, that is the whole value of it

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u/reship_roulette166 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the claimed figure, and the measured one is the higher of the two in your own screenshot.

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u/georgi_chowdhury77 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis?

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u/emil_agyeman191 points·1 year ago

Area percent and net peptide content are different measurements and most reports give one.

This is why the template has a batch field. Without it the result is about a vial nobody can identify.

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u/runa_wikstrom213 points·1 year ago·edited

Not convinced by the comparison. Different services, different gradients, and you are treating one as ground truth.

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u/priya_ogunleye73 points·1 year ago

Area percent or net peptide content?

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u/stubborn_batchlist_only86 points·1 year ago

the trend across lots is worth more than any single figure

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u/medutest_mel156 points·1 year ago

KP BPC, batch matched the paperwork, Medutest came back 99.4% against a claimed 99.0%. Paid for it myself, posting it because the log is only worth anything if people do.

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u/crp_curious41 points·1 year ago·edited

Kept every report as a PDF with the batch in the filename. Two years in, it is the most useful folder I own.

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u/coa_janitormod · c/coa109 points·1 year ago

Did the vial lot match the paperwork lot?

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u/gustav_cardoso76 points·1 year ago

area percent unless the report says otherwise

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u/teodor_jansenOP78 points·1 year ago

That service reports area percent by default. Worth stating, since the thread has been comparing it to a mass figure.

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u/meera_oyelaran43 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on saying who paid. It is the whole basis on which this log is worth anything.

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u/crp_curious61 points·1 year ago·edited

Push back: three tests on one lot is one lot. It tells you about that lot and almost nothing about the next one.

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