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c/labresults·posted 1 year ago by u/phase_two_pete

the Janoshik thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

Janoshik Receipts ×1 Sourced ×2 Cold Box ×2

the Janoshik thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

Fourth lot from the same supplier in the log now and the band has been tight the whole way. That consistency is the actual finding.

Tested three lots over a year rather than three vials from one lot. Cost the same and told me something completely different.

First result I ever posted here got asked for the batch number and the claim. Fair, and my posts have been better ever since.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU432 points·1 year ago

A series across separate lots estimates a process. Repeat tests on one lot estimate the measurement. Both are useful and they answer different questions.

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u/mod_ambulatoryadmin513 points·1 year ago

Disagree that this is a discrepancy. 99.3% against a claimed 98.5% is inside ordinary inter-lab variance in either direction.

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[deleted]193 points·1 year ago

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u/camila_mensa349 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on saying who paid. It is the whole basis on which this log is worth anything.

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u/janoshik_junkieMOD459 points·1 year ago

Left up and added to the vendor source page log. Thanks for paying for it and posting it.

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u/enzo_fonseca158 points·1 year ago

Chain of custody is why member-funded testing is worth more than a supplied certificate: the vial tested is the vial that arrived at a member’s door.

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u/ismael_nwosu108 points·1 year ago

Right, and a point or two between services is ordinary. It is agreement, and every month somebody posts it as a scandal.

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u/meera_sandvik284 points·1 year ago

Sent a vial in specifically to check a supplier’s claim after a good experience. It matched. Boring result, worth logging.

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u/kenji_kimani219 points·1 year ago

vendor, compound, batch, service, result — that is the template

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u/greta_nilsen163 points·1 year ago

one result is a data point, agreement between two services is evidence

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u/peptidemeter_pat94 points·1 year ago

date of analysis matters as much as the number

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u/phase_two_peteOP208 points·1 year ago

Area percent or net peptide content?

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u/anders_karlsen84 points·1 year ago

Area percent and net peptide content are different measurements and most reports give one. Quote which, or the comparison downstream is meaningless.

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u/mei_cardoso44 points·1 year ago

inter-lab variance runs a point or two, plan your outrage accordingly

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u/refund_ledger208 points·1 year ago

How to build a series that means something, if you are going to spend money on testing anyway.

Three tests on one lot tells you about your measurement. Three tests on three lots, spread over a year, tells you about a process. The second is the one worth paying for and it costs the same.

Buy small, keep the batch numbers, send one vial per lot, and post each one with the claim next to it. After four or five you have something no individual review can give you: a band, a direction and a date range. That is what the source pages are made of.

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u/phase_two_peteOP158 points·1 year ago

That service reports area percent by default. Worth stating, since the thread has been comparing it to a mass figure.

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u/refund_ledger54 points·1 year ago

the log is cumulative, that is the whole value of it

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u/ismael_nwosu16 points·1 year ago

Kept every report as a PDF with the batch in the filename. Two years in, it is the most useful folder I own.

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