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c/glp1aus·posted 1 year ago by u/ferran_mensah

[Discussion] we are measuring TGA at the wrong time and calling it noise

Discussion Well Actually ×9

Thinking out loud about this: we are measuring TGA at the wrong time and calling it noise.

Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.

Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.

Checked the shortage database myself instead of reading the coverage. Expected resolution date was right there and the panic thread was wrong.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/blunt_coldbox_2024112 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.

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u/britt_abubakar40 points·1 year ago

Same. Private pricing varies here as much as anywhere and people assume it is fixed.

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u/controversial_only31 points·1 year ago

That figure is a private price at one pharmacy, not a national one.

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u/ismael_pires57 points·1 year ago

pharmacy stock and national supply are different questions

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u/controversial_only44 points·1 year ago

PBS listing and TGA registration are two different questions

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u/slow_logbook_notes23 points·1 year ago

Small fix — that is the New Zealand arrangement, and the question is about Australia.

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u/jarno_adeyemi60 points·1 year ago

PBS listing and TGA registration are two different questions

This is the distinction that makes the rest of the board legible.

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u/jarno_adeyemi43 points·1 year ago

The national shortage database is a primary source with expected resolution dates attached. It is public, searchable, and consistently more accurate than reporting about it.

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u/lyophile_lou29 points·1 year ago

Asked the pharmacist to check the wholesaler and had a definite answer in about four minutes.

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u/nl_verzekering8 points·1 year ago

Careful, personal importation provisions are narrow and specific and the general version circulating here is wrong.

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u/nz_unfunded27 points·1 year ago

a streamlined authority code is not the same as a general listing

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u/sena_balogun25 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on asking the pharmacy to check the wholesaler. It converts speculation into a fact in one phone call.

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u/britta_nakamura21 points·1 year ago·edited

Registration by the therapeutic goods regulator establishes that a product may be supplied. Subsidy listing is a separate decision about public funding, with its own criteria and its own timetable.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain16 points·1 year ago

Did the pharmacy check with the wholesaler, or is that a shelf observation?

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u/marta_ilunga12 points·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements. An answer for one is not evidence about the other.

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u/anecdata_annie9 points·1 year ago

Compounded supply arrangements have changed materially in recent years. Advice predating that change describes a situation that no longer applies.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU13 points·1 year ago·edited

Kept the script and the receipt for a private health claim and both were requested.

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u/kavya_kravchenko8 points·1 year ago·edited

ask the pharmacy to check the wholesaler rather than guessing

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u/honest_syringe33-36 points·1 year ago

Where to look instead of asking, which will nearly always be faster.

The national shortage database is public, searchable and carries expected resolution dates. The subsidy criteria for each indication are published. Your pharmacist can check wholesaler availability in a few minutes, which is a different question from what is on the shelf.

Between those three, most questions on this board are answerable in half an hour with primary sources. The board is genuinely useful for experience, pricing comparison and the parts that are not written down anywhere — it is a poor substitute for a document that exists.

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u/ferran_mensahOP1 point·1 year ago

Are you quoting advice from before the compounded arrangements changed?

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u/careful_gradient_again1 point·1 year ago

compounded supply arrangements changed and the threads have not caught up

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u/ismael_pires1 point·1 year ago

the Medsafe position in New Zealand is its own thing entirely

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