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c/glp1aus·posted 1 year ago by u/aksel_jansen

[Discussion] New Zealand is doing more work than we give it credit for

Discussion Receipts ×7 Cold Box ×2

New Zealand is doing more work than we give it credit for, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

The compounded arrangements changed while I was mid-thread and I was arguing from a superseded position.

The two decisions that this whole board turns on, kept apart.

Registration means a product may lawfully be supplied. Subsidy listing means the public system will fund it, for a defined indication, against published criteria. They are made by different bodies on different timetables, and a product can be registered and unsubsidised for a given use for a long time.

Almost every "why can I not get this" thread here is really a question about the second decision being answered with facts about the first. Say which one you are asking about and the thread resolves in two replies.

Someone posted US advice in an Australian thread and it took four replies to untangle it. Say your country.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/arne_amankwah-15 points·1 year ago

Registration by the therapeutic goods regulator establishes that a product may be supplied. Subsidy listing is a separate decision about public funding, with its own criteria and its own timetable.

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u/camila_sandvik253 points·1 year ago

Kept the script and the receipt for a private health claim and both were requested.

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u/kavya_kravchenko108 points·1 year ago

Small fix — that is the New Zealand arrangement, and the question is about Australia.

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u/tuva_kirchner36 points·1 year ago

ask the pharmacy to check the wholesaler rather than guessing

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u/copay_card_cc8 points·1 year ago

Assumed the New Zealand position applied here. It does not, and someone corrected me politely with the actual source.

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u/no_refunds_nr210 points·1 year ago

Checked the shortage database myself instead of reading the coverage. Expected resolution date was right there and the panic thread was wrong.

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u/aksel_jansenOP85 points·1 year ago

Is this about registration or about subsidy?

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u/adnan_sandvik198 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing. They are made by different bodies.

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u/chain_confirm_cpayments148 points·1 year ago

Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.

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u/aussie_pbs_watchMOD60 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy staff name removed; the pharmacy itself can stay in a pricing post.

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u/anecdata_annie43 points·1 year ago

the price you pay depends on the listing status of your indication

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u/sten_rautio0 points·1 year ago

Agreed that the published criteria are the authority. They are searchable and most people never look.

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u/nz_unfunded94 points·1 year ago

Asked the pharmacist to check the wholesaler and had a definite answer in about four minutes.

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