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c/cryptopay·posted 2 months ago by u/annika_fonseca

help me understand chargeback, I have read the wiki twice

Question Well Actually ×9 Receipts ×2

Question in the title, detail here: help me understand chargeback, I have read the wiki twice.

A token symbol identifies an asset, not a network. The same symbol commonly exists on several chains with incompatible address formats, and sending across that boundary is generally unrecoverable.

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/cormac_erdogan265 points·2 months ago

Rate quotes expire because the underlying rate moves. A short expiry is ordinary; urgency about your decision is a separate signal and should be read separately.

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u/lane_map_larrylogistics143 points·2 months ago

What is and is not the supplier’s fault, since this board generates unfair complaints.

Not theirs: the network fee, chain congestion, confirmation time, the rate moving between quote and send, and a payment sent on the wrong chain. Theirs: which networks they accept, how quickly they credit a confirmed payment, and whether the address they gave you was correct and communicated clearly.

Keeping those columns separate makes the reports here far more useful. A thread titled "supplier took my payment" that turns out to describe forty minutes of unconfirmed transaction helps nobody and follows people around for years.

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u/emil_marchand45 points·2 months ago

Got a quote with a fifteen-minute expiry and assumed it was a pressure tactic. It was just a held rate.

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u/week_four_wall17 points·2 months ago

Yes — gas is the network’s, not the supplier’s, and conflating them produces a lot of unfair complaints.

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u/honest_syringe_2025129 points·2 months ago

Asked which networks FGP accepted before ordering and picked the cheapest one at that hour. Saved more than the difference in price.

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u/vendorinvestigate_vic30 points·2 months ago

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

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u/curious_panel_only62 points·2 months ago

Asked which networks FGP accepted before ordering and picked the cheapest one at that hour.

Disagreeing here: that is a network fee at a busy hour and it is not the supplier’s doing.

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u/annika_fonsecaOP52 points·2 months ago

send a test amount first if the total is large

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u/rasmus_kuipers17 points·2 months ago

Push back: an unconfirmed transaction is not a missing payment. Wait for confirmations before escalating.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes70 points·2 months ago

Right, and confirmations are the status. "Sent" means nothing until the chain agrees.

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u/yara_mensah34 points·2 months ago

Right, and confirmations are the status.

This is the check that prevents the only genuinely unrecoverable mistake in this thread.

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u/hugo_pires22 points·2 months ago

the supplier cannot reverse it and neither can you

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u/stablecoin_steveMOD69 points·2 months ago

Moved from the vendor board. Payment mechanics live here.

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u/santiago_marchetti28 points·2 months ago

This. A test transaction on a large order costs a fraction of the fee and removes the whole class of risk.

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u/the_poster_in_question_202617 points·2 months ago·edited

Escrow is not standard in this space. Wanting it is reasonable; expecting it as default is not.

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u/milan_mensah6 points·2 months ago

Agreed that quote expiry is ordinary. Rates move and a time-limited quote is not a pressure tactic on its own.

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u/nadia_norgaard1 point·2 months ago

Cosigning on keeping the hash. It is the only receipt in existence and people screenshot their balance instead.

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u/marit_mwangi4 points·2 months ago

Agreed that quote expiry is ordinary.

Adding the cheap insurance — test amount first on anything large.

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u/jonas_eriksen42 points·2 months ago·edited

Yes — the same token symbol on two chains catches people constantly and it is unrecoverable.

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u/coa_janitormod · c/coa48 points·2 months ago

confirmations are the only status that means anything

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u/solene_ilunga25 points·2 months ago

Same. Asking which networks are accepted before ordering has saved me twice.

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u/milos_trevino37 points·2 months ago

Sent a test amount first on a large order. Cost me a fraction of a percent and I have done it every time since.

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK-23 points·2 months ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/enzo_ferrari29 points·2 months ago

The transaction hash is the canonical receipt: it is public, verifiable by either party, and it is what a support query should quote.

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u/annika_fonsecaOP11 points·2 months ago

Is the fee you are describing the network fee or something the supplier added?

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u/anya_antonsen3 points·2 months ago

the same token exists on several chains and they are not interchangeable

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u/niels_lindqvist10 points·2 months ago

screenshot the transaction hash, not the wallet balance

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u/nora_ramos14 points·2 months ago

Keep every transaction hash in a note file with the order reference. It has resolved two queries instantly.

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u/nabila_bakken11 points·2 months ago

fees vary by chain and by hour, not by supplier

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