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c/cryptopay·posted 2 years ago by u/annika_fonseca

the gas fees question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

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Something I keep coming back to: the gas fees question that gets asked weekly, answered properly.

Nearly sent on the wrong network. The token symbol was identical and the address format was the only clue.

Asked which networks FGP accepted before ordering and picked the cheapest one at that hour. Saved more than the difference in price.

A test transaction costs one extra network fee and verifies the address, the network and the recipient’s crediting process before the main amount moves.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/vendorinvestigate_vic334 points·2 years ago

What is and is not the supplier’s fault, since this board generates unfair complaints.

Not theirs: the network fee, chain congestion, confirmation time, the rate moving between quote and send, and a payment sent on the wrong chain. Theirs: which networks they accept, how quickly they credit a confirmed payment, and whether the address they gave you was correct and communicated clearly.

Keeping those columns separate makes the reports here far more useful. A thread titled "supplier took my payment" that turns out to describe forty minutes of unconfirmed transaction helps nobody and follows people around for years.

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u/curious_panel_only276 points·2 years ago

Sent to the right address on the wrong chain years ago. Nothing to be done. That is the lesson I paid for.

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u/salma_baptista225 points·2 years ago

Sent to the right address on the wrong chain years ago.

This is the check that prevents the only genuinely unrecoverable mistake in this thread.

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u/annika_fonsecaOP134 points·2 years ago·edited

keep the hash, it is the only receipt that exists

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u/annika_fonseca66 points·2 years ago

I would not treat a delayed confirmation as evidence of anything at all. Chains have busy hours.

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u/elodie_yilmaz126 points·2 years ago

escrow arrangements are rare and worth asking about

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u/tove_ogunleye199 points·2 years ago

confirmations are the only status that means anything

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u/stablecoin_steveMOD121 points·2 years ago

Wallet address redacted from the post above. Hashes are fine here; addresses are not.

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u/annika_fonsecaOP128 points·2 years ago

Pasted rather than typed the address, then checked the first and last six characters. Habit now.

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u/milan_chukwu29 points·2 years ago

the same token exists on several chains and they are not interchangeable

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u/nadia_kjaer12 points·2 years ago

Correction: that address format is not the chain you named. Worth checking before anybody follows this.

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u/nils_ferreira42 points·2 years ago

nobody legitimate needs the payment in the next ten minutes

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u/camila_trevino59 points·2 years ago

a payment sent on the wrong network is usually gone

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u/neha_erdogan83 points·2 years ago

send a test amount first if the total is large

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u/stablecoin_steve70 points·2 years ago·edited

Some chains require a memo or destination tag to route funds to the right account. Omitting it on those chains is one of the more common ways payments go astray.

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u/kaia_cabrera46 points·2 years ago

Network fees are set by chain congestion at the time of sending. They are paid to the network, not to the recipient, and they vary by hour as well as by chain.

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u/annika_fonsecaOP-1 point·2 years ago

How many confirmations does it show?

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u/anders_vermeulen15 points·2 years ago

the supplier cannot reverse it and neither can you

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u/noor_hovland39 points·2 years ago

Was there a memo or tag requirement on that chain?

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u/rasmus_kuipers14 points·2 years ago

ask which networks they actually accept before you order

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u/laila_almeida22 points·2 years ago

gas is not the supplier’s fee

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u/zeynep_zielinski16 points·2 years ago

Confirmations are the count of blocks built on top of the one containing your transaction. Until there are some, the transaction is not settled in any meaningful sense.

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u/reflux_report18 points·2 years ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

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u/hassan_castellanos11 points·2 years ago

network and address, checked twice, before anything else

Agreed — and the hash is the receipt. Nothing else is.

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