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c/coa·posted 1 months ago by u/coa_janitor

how much of what we believe about area percent actually comes from COA threads

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The title is the whole question — how much of what we believe about area percent actually comes from COA threads — but here is why I am asking.

Started keeping a folder of every certificate I have been sent. The ones that itemise impurities are a small group and they are mostly the same suppliers.

Water content 3.8%, acetate 6.2%, purity 99%, net peptide about 90% of label weight. All four numbers honest, and I had to read it twice.

The document I was worried about turned out to be a re-issue with a later creation date. Asked, got the original, entirely ordinary.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/teodor_jansen292 points·1 months ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/foam_head_fred55 points·1 months ago

Does the lot on the vial match the lot on the page?

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u/milos_vanhecke43 points·1 months ago

ask for the storage condition the stability statement was written against

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u/ghrp_history34 points·1 months ago

HPLC-UV and LC-MS answer different questions

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u/certified_referenceMOD290 points·1 months ago

Reminder: a question about a document is not an accusation about a supplier, and posts that blur the two get retitled.

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u/janek_ferrari118 points·1 months ago

LC-MS gives you identity; UV purity gives you a relative quantity. A document with the first and not the second, or the reverse, is answering half the question.

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u/coa_janitorOPmod · c/coa87 points·1 months ago

Area percent or net peptide content? They answer different questions.

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u/tove_ogunleye30 points·1 months ago

Did you ask for the batch-specific document, or is this the catalogue one?

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u/liv_nkemelu228 points·1 months ago

net peptide content and purity are two different numbers on the same vial

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u/rohan_steiner129 points·1 months ago

Same view. SSA prints the column and the gradient, which means somebody could actually reproduce the run.

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u/ismael_eriksen69 points·1 months ago

area% is not mass%, and the difference is the whole game

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u/tidy_vialdrawer_pls153 points·1 months ago

The PDF creation date being later than the analysis date is usually a re-issue or a re-export. It is worth one question and it is not evidence of anything on its own.

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u/coa_janitorOPmod · c/coa0 points·1 months ago

Correcting myself upthread: I said the date was missing and it is on the second page, which I had not scrolled to.

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u/spreadsheet_gremlindata1 point·1 months ago

Are the related substances itemised or is it a single total?

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u/foam_head_fred95 points·1 months ago

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for. A 99% pure acetate salt can still be about 85% peptide by mass.

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u/priya_palacios56 points·1 months ago·edited

Net peptide content is the fraction of the powder that is actually peptide once counterion, water and residual solvent are accounted for.

Disagree on this specific point. Two honest labs can resolve that impurity differently and report different numbers.

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u/ahmed_rasmussen80 points·1 months ago

I would not read a rounded figure as evasive. Plenty of documents round to one decimal as house style.

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