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c/bpc157·posted 4 days ago by u/rosa_almeida

[Sceptic] the tendon claims outran the evidence by about a decade

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the tendon claims outran the evidence by about a decade. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

Every claim I could trace in this board went back to about four papers. That was a sobering afternoon.

Bought small, tested identity first, and only then thought about anything else. That order felt right.

Why identity, not purity, is the test to buy here.

This is a short peptide with a published sequence. Synthesis is not difficult, which means the market is wide and the analytical question shifts. A high area-percent figure tells you the sample is homogeneous; it does not tell you the homogeneous material is the sequence you ordered.

Mass spectrometry, with the theoretical mass alongside the measured one, converts a purity claim into an identity claim. It costs a little more and it answers the question that actually matters. Ask for it, and ask suppliers whether they can provide it before you order — the answers are informative in themselves.

If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something. Alone it is an anecdote.

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u/katrin_girard20 points·3 days ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. In this board that is not a formality — it is the reason the clinical evidence base is as thin as it is.

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u/ilias_kaufmann10 points·3 days ago

Do you have the mass spectrum?

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u/canada_coverage-30 points·3 days ago·edited

Small fix — fifteen residues, not seventeen. The sequence is public and easy to check.

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u/tomas_kimani4 points·3 days ago

That claim traces back to a single preclinical paper that says something considerably narrower.

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u/piotr_grimaldi1 point·3 days ago

the tendon claims are the most repeated and the least evidenced

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u/rosa_almeidaOP1 point·3 days ago

Correcting myself: I said the regulatory position had not changed and in that jurisdiction it has.

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u/marta_trevino4 points·3 days ago·edited

Yes. Nothing here is approved for human use and that should be the first line of every thread, not the last.

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u/kaplan_meier_kim9 points·3 days ago

Went and read the primary rodent papers after arguing about a summary for a week. They are much narrower than the threads suggest.

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u/elin_varga5 points·3 days ago

Which paper is that claim from, and was it in humans?

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u/karim_restrepo2 points·2 days ago

Same. Solution stability is the practical question and almost nobody asks it.

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u/bruno_dumitru2 points·2 days ago

no clinical trial has established what these threads assert

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u/asks_dumb_questions1 point·2 days ago

the human evidence is thin and the rodent evidence is not

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology1 point·2 days ago

research-use-only means not approved for human use, and here that covers everything

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u/nurse_ish_20254 points·3 days ago

Sent a vial to PeptideMeter: 99.2% against a claimed 99.0%, with the mass confirming the sequence. Both halves mattered to me.

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u/hugo_bergstrom3 points·3 days ago

Ask for the theoretical mass alongside the measured one. It is a one-line addition to a certificate and it converts a purity claim into an identity claim.

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u/rasmus_kimani1 point·3 days ago

a fifteen-residue peptide is easy to make and easy to make badly

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