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c/bloodwork·posted 1 year ago by u/iman_falk

[Discussion] ferritin is doing more work than we give it credit for

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ferritin is doing more work than we give it credit for, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board.

Different laboratories use different assay platforms with different calibration. Comparing across labs adds a systematic offset that is invisible on the report.

Substantial weight loss independently moves lipids, liver enzymes and several other markers. Attributing a change to a compound while losing weight is confounded by design.

Repeat testing before acting is standard practice for a reason: regression to the mean does a lot of work on single outlying values.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/sanne_novak139 points·1 year ago

Nobody here can interpret your panel and this comment is not doing so. What a board can usefully do is help you ask better questions of somebody who can.

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u/peptidemeter_pat80 points·1 year ago

Same lab as the previous draw?

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u/kenji_kimani104 points·1 year ago

Not convinced by the attribution. Weight loss alone moves that marker and you have no way to separate the two.

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u/iman_falkOP72 points·1 year ago

Compared two draws across two labs and spent a week worrying before finding out the assays were different.

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u/blank_injection89 points·1 year ago

one measurement is a point, two is a line, three is a trend

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u/iman_falk44 points·1 year ago

one measurement is a point, two is a line, three is a trend

Disagreeing with this bit: that change is confounded by the weight loss itself and cannot be attributed.

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u/cardio_endpoint_c60 points·1 year ago

Tracked A1c against the weight trend for a year. The correlation was much weaker than I expected and that was worth knowing.

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u/osman_eriksen83 points·1 year ago

Reference intervals are typically the central 95% of a reference population. By construction one person in twenty falls outside one on any given test without anything being wrong.

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u/mikkel_kimani47 points·1 year ago

Correction: that marker is reported in different units by different labs, which explains the tenfold difference you are seeing.

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u/iman_falk20 points·1 year ago

Same view — ApoB if you add one thing. It answers a question the standard panel only gestures at.

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u/yara_antonsen17 points·1 year ago

Yes — same lab, same fasting state, same rough time of day, or the comparison is doing nothing.

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u/nayeli_iyer-33 points·1 year ago

ApoB counts atherogenic particles rather than the cholesterol they carry, which is why it can diverge from LDL-C and why it is the addition most worth making.

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u/coring_the_stopper13 points·1 year ago

What did the repeat show?

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u/iman_falkOP13 points·1 year ago

Added ApoB to the panel after a thread here. It told me something the standard lipid panel had been hiding.

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u/liver_enzyme_liz15 points·1 year ago

same lab, same conditions, or you are comparing noise

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u/hugo_pires6 points·1 year ago

the trend line matters more than any single value

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u/cormac_erdogan56 points·1 year ago

bring the numbers to someone qualified to read them

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u/kaia_kuusela151 points·1 year ago

a single eGFR outside range is a reason to repeat, not to panic

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u/whois_wanda78 points·1 year ago

How to make a panel worth comparing, which is most of the value people leave on the table.

Standardise the conditions: same lab, same fasting state, same rough time of day, same point in the week, similar hydration. Take a baseline before you change anything. Repeat any surprising value before acting on it. Change one thing at a time if you want to attribute anything to it.

Do that and a year of panels is a trend. Skip it and a year of panels is a collection of unrelated mornings, which is what most of the alarmed posts here are actually describing.

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u/step_therapy_s34 points·1 year ago·edited

This. Reference ranges are population intervals, not targets, and conflating them causes a lot of unnecessary alarm here.

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u/iman_falk36 points·1 year ago

That comparison crosses two labs with different assays. The difference you are describing may be the method.

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u/andres_restrepo9 points·1 year ago

nothing on this board interprets your results for you

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u/bence_zamora39 points·1 year ago

assay method matters, especially between different labs

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u/ahmed_fonseca9 points·1 year ago

Time of day, fasting state, hydration and recent exercise all move common markers. Standardising the draw conditions is free and it removes most of the apparent variability.

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u/iman_falkOP6 points·1 year ago

That is a non-fasting value and the interval you are comparing it against is a fasting one.

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u/amara_dziedzic5 points·1 year ago

Brought the whole set to my clinician rather than one flagged value. Completely different conversation.

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u/transit_variance4 points·1 year ago

Do you have a baseline from before you started?

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u/neha_rahimi1 point·1 year ago

do not change three things and then read the panel

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