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c/bloodwork·posted 1 year ago by u/bac_water_bandit

ferritin — 15 things I got wrong before I got it right

Results Receipts ×8 Clean Column ×3 Cold Box ×3

ferritin — 15 things I got wrong before I got it right. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

ApoB counts atherogenic particles rather than the cholesterol they carry, which is why it can diverge from LDL-C and why it is the addition most worth making.

Time of day, fasting state, hydration and recent exercise all move common markers. Standardising the draw conditions is free and it removes most of the apparent variability.

Different laboratories use different assay platforms with different calibration. Comparing across labs adds a systematic offset that is invisible on the report.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/intent_to_treat433 points·1 year ago

Nobody here can interpret your panel and this comment is not doing so. What a board can usefully do is help you ask better questions of somebody who can.

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u/bac_water_banditOPreconstitution305 points·1 year ago

nothing on this board interprets your results for you

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork388 points·1 year ago

nothing on this board interprets your results for you

Adding the obvious one — take it to whoever ordered the panel. This board cannot read it for you.

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u/lina_almeida126 points·1 year ago

ask whether the lab changed its assay between your two draws

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u/jarno_karlsen35 points·1 year ago

Substantial weight loss independently moves lipids, liver enzymes and several other markers. Attributing a change to a compound while losing weight is confounded by design.

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u/laila_yilmaz191 points·1 year ago

baseline before you start is worth more than any later panel

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u/pavel_nkemelu373 points·1 year ago

Do you have a baseline from before you started?

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u/coa_forgery_watch128 points·1 year ago

same lab, same conditions, or you are comparing noise

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u/heart_rate_bump297 points·1 year ago

Cosigning on baseline. The panel I regret most is the one I did not take before starting.

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u/nikhil_asante199 points·1 year ago

Agreed. The trend is the signal. A single value is a snapshot of one morning.

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u/bac_water_banditreconstitution172 points·1 year ago

Have you taken this to whoever ordered it?

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork128 points·1 year ago

Have you taken this to whoever ordered it?

bac_water_bandit is right that a reference interval is not a target. It is a description of a population.

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u/diego_sorensen201 points·1 year ago

the trend line matters more than any single value

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u/jonas_cardoso105 points·1 year ago

Repeat testing before acting is standard practice for a reason: regression to the mean does a lot of work on single outlying values.

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u/coldchain_karencold chain36 points·1 year ago·edited

Did anything else change in that window — training, intake, hydration?

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u/forest_plot_fionastats71 points·1 year ago

What did the repeat show?

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u/isabela_guerrero72 points·1 year ago·edited

That comparison crosses two labs with different assays. The difference you are describing may be the method.

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u/laila_yilmaz38 points·1 year ago

Agreed on assay changes. A lab switching platforms between your draws is invisible unless you ask.

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u/whois_wanda10 points·1 year ago

Same view — ApoB if you add one thing. It answers a question the standard panel only gestures at.

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u/lina_almeida26 points·1 year ago

Careful — that is a question for whoever ordered the panel, and nobody in this thread can answer it responsibly.

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u/a1c_arcT2D9 points·1 year ago

Careful — that is a question for whoever ordered the panel, and nobody in this thread can answer it responsibly.

Disagreeing with this bit: that change is confounded by the weight loss itself and cannot be attributed.

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u/bac_water_banditOPreconstitution4 points·1 year ago

Correcting my own comment: the two draws were 8 weeks apart, not the figure I gave earlier.

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u/ismael_eriksen2 points·1 year ago

Same lab as the previous draw?

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u/baseline_drifteranalytical-29 points·1 year ago

Compared two draws across two labs and spent a week worrying before finding out the assays were different.

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u/kofi_balogun15 points·1 year ago

Fasting or not, and what time of day?

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u/step_therapy_s9 points·1 year ago

Small fix — a reference interval is not a treatment target, and the post above uses them interchangeably.

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u/tomas_kimani7 points·1 year ago

Reference intervals are typically the central 95% of a reference population. By construction one person in twenty falls outside one on any given test without anything being wrong.

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u/skip_week_sceptic45 points·1 year ago

ApoB is the one worth adding if you only add one

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u/hedda_adeyemi29 points·1 year ago

How many weeks between the two measurements?

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