Trying to get a straight answer on this: help me understand SURMOUNT, I have read the wiki twice. Relative risk reduction without the baseline rate is uninterpretable.…
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Overview — page 2 of 2
comment on the STEP question that gets asked weekly, answered properly in c/trialwatch · 1 points · 1 year ago
Yes — the interval is the finding. A point estimate with a wide interval is a hypothesis in a nice font.
comment on contraception — 16 things I got wrong before I got it right in c/glp1women · -25 points · 1 year ago
symptom patterns can track the cycle rather than the dose
comment on SURPASS — 15 things I got wrong before I got it right in c/trialwatch · 25 points · 1 year ago
On means, which this board treats as targets and which are nothing of the sort.
A reported mean body weight change is the centre of a distribution that in these trials is very wide. Substantial numbers of participants did much better, and substantial numbers did considerably worse while remaining on the drug and in the analysis.
Quoting the mean as an expectation therefore misleads in both directions: it makes ordinary results look like failures and it makes exceptional results look normal. If a paper publishes the distribution — and several do, in the appendix — look at that instead. It is far more informative than the number in the abstract.
comment on [Discussion] perimenopause is doing more work than we give it credit for in c/glp1women · 10 points · 1 year ago
symptom patterns can track the cycle rather than the dose
comment on [Discussion] the purity advice in here is 3 years out of date in c/coa · 14 points · 1 year ago
Why the same vial can honestly produce three different numbers.
Purity by area percent is relative to what the detector saw on one gradient at one wavelength. Net peptide content subtracts counterion, water and residual solvent. Mass of peptide per vial is net content times fill weight, and fill weight has its own tolerance.
So a document reading 99% purity, 6% acetate and 4% water is describing a vial that is about 90% peptide by mass, and every one of those numbers is honest. The mistake is treating the headline figure as the answer to "how much peptide did I get".
comment on unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about area percent is guesswork in c/coa · 136 points · 1 year ago
chromatogram or it did not happen
comment on [Question] how do you actually verify SURPASS in c/trialwatch · 22 points · 1 year ago
registry entry, protocol, publication — three different documents
comment on does SELECT actually matter or is it forum lore at this point in c/trialwatch · 1 points · 1 year ago
That is the 68-week readout, not the 72-week one. Different trial, different duration.
comment on does SELECT actually matter or is it forum lore at this point in c/trialwatch · 66 points · 1 year ago
What was the discontinuation rate?
comment on help me understand SURMOUNT, I have read the wiki twice in c/trialwatch · 89 points · 1 year ago
That is the 68-week readout, not the 72-week one. Different trial, different duration.
comment on why does nobody talk about water content in c/coa · 388 points · 1 year ago
Yes — and the reason to ask for the whole page is that the interesting parts are the ones people crop out to fit a screenshot.
comment on why does nobody talk about SELECT in c/trialwatch · 15 points · 1 year ago
What was the discontinuation rate?
careful_gradient_again is right about the programme names. They are different populations with different endpoints.
comment on [Lab] split one vial across Janoshik and Medutest — 98.1% and 97.6% in c/coa · 26 points · 1 year ago
Batch number and date of analysis, are both on there?
comment on 7 months in and cycle is still the thing I get wrong in c/glp1women · 417 points · 1 year ago
Telogen shedding follows a period of significant weight change rather than a specific compound, and it resolves.
comment on insulin resistance — my 21-week log, condensed into one table in c/glp1women · 35 points · 1 year ago
The one practical change that makes this board’s hardest questions tractable: annotate your log with the cycle.
Hormonal variation affects appetite, fluid and symptom intensity in its own right. Without the annotation, a log shows a dose, a week and a set of symptoms that appear to move at random. With it, patterns that were invisible become obvious in about three months.
Members here who have done it consistently report the same thing: the same dose feels genuinely different at different points, and knowing that in advance converts a confusing fortnight into an expected one. It also makes a much better document to bring to an appointment.
comment on [Meta] the cycle rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining in c/glp1women · 10 points · 2 years ago
Agreed — logging the cycle alongside everything else is what made my own pattern visible. It was invisible before that.
comment on help me understand SURMOUNT, I have read the wiki twice in c/trialwatch · 0 points · 2 years ago
Absolute or relative risk reduction?
comment on help me understand SURMOUNT, I have read the wiki twice in c/trialwatch · 15 points · 2 years ago
Correction: SURMOUNT is the obesity programme and SURPASS is the diabetes one. The figure you quoted belongs to the other one.
comment on help me understand SURMOUNT, I have read the wiki twice in c/trialwatch · 74 points · 2 years ago
That is the 68-week readout, not the 72-week one. Different trial, different duration.
comment on [Discussion] related substances are doing more work than we give it credit for in c/coa · 182 points · 2 years ago
batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set
Adding the bit that always gets missed: the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page, or none of this applies to your material.
comment on reading area percent threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly in c/coa · 173 points · 2 years ago
Did you get the chromatogram or only the summary line?
comment on unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about hazard ratio is guesswork in c/trialwatch · 1 points · 2 years ago
Correction: SURMOUNT is the obesity programme and SURPASS is the diabetes one. The figure you quoted belongs to the other one.
comment on [Discussion] fake COA is doing more work than we give it credit for in c/scamalerts · 232 points · 2 years ago
This is the check that catches most of it, and it takes under a minute.
rohan_krastev has the group-buy risk right — it is structural, not a judgement about anybody in particular.
comment on fake COA — 23 things I got wrong before I got it right in c/scamalerts · 56 points · 2 years ago
That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.
comment on [Lab] 16th independent test on WXT — 99.3% on a claimed 98.5%, and the trend is the interesting part in c/coa · -25 points · 2 years ago
a total of 0.4% tells you less than four named impurities adding to 0.6%