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c/coa·posted 1 year ago by u/anders_kuusela

[Lab] split one vial across Janoshik and Medutest — 98.1% and 97.6%

Lab Receipts ×6

Right: split one vial across Janoshik and Medutest — 98.1% and 97.6%. I paid for this one myself, nobody sent me anything, and the receipts are in the comments.

The numbers the title promised, since a headline without them is worthless: 98.1% and 97.6%. Everything below is context for those.

The document I was worried about turned out to be a re-issue with a later creation date. Asked, got the original, entirely ordinary.

Water content 3.8%, acetate 6.2%, purity 99%, net peptide about 90% of label weight. All four numbers honest, and I had to read it twice.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/teodor_jansen-31 points·1 year ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rather than its size.

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u/gastric_emptying_g1 point·1 year ago

Related substances itemised individually is a much stronger document than a single total, because it tells you the shape of the impurity profile rathe

This is the sentence to take away. The rest of the thread is footnotes to it.

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u/vito_chowdhury1 point·1 year ago

the related substances line is where the story is

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u/wanjiru_varga1 point·1 year ago

That is the catalogue certificate rather than the batch-specific one. Same layout, completely different status.

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u/zaid_balogun47 points·1 year ago

Careful — "the metadata looks odd" is a reason to ask a question, not a conclusion. Re-issues are ordinary.

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u/anders_kuuselaOP0 points·1 year ago

Does the lot on the vial match the lot on the page?

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u/cato_achebe1 point·1 year ago

Small fix — 214nm, not 280nm. It matters here because the impurity you are asking about barely absorbs at the longer wavelength.

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u/janek_ferrari12 points·1 year ago

Agreed — the itemised related substances table is the difference between a document and a receipt.

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u/emeka_chowdhury39 points·1 year ago

UV at 214nm sees the peptide bond and picks up almost everything; at 280nm you are looking at aromatics only. Which wavelength the number came from is part of the number.

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u/cesar_ivaturi27 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning, and the document says so if you read the row label.

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u/foam_head_fred26 points·1 year ago

Batch number and date of analysis, are both on there?

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u/andres_restrepo20 points·1 year ago

Sent one vial to VendorInvestigate and Medutest. 99.2% and a claimed 98.5%. Cost me more than the vial and I would do it again.

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u/zeynep_zielinski12 points·1 year ago

Sent one vial to VendorInvestigate and Medutest.

Adding the bit that always gets missed: the lot on the vial has to match the lot on the page, or none of this applies to your material.

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u/dead_space_doug4 points·1 year ago

batch number, date of analysis, method, individual impurities — that is the minimum set

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u/janek_ferrari3 points·1 year ago

Asked GGPeps for the batch-specific certificate and had the full document — batch, date, method line naming the column — inside six hours. That is now my baseline for everybody.

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u/anecdata_annie1 point·1 year ago

chromatogram or it did not happen

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u/valeria_karlsen14 points·1 year ago

Disagree that a lower number is automatically worse. A conservative claim that survives testing is worth more than an optimistic one that does not.

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