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c/survodutide·submitted 5 months ago by u/old_account_2023

three years of survodutide threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

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three years of survodutide threads, summarised so you do not have to read them. Not a hot take, just something I have not seen said plainly here. Histological endpoints in this field are scored on biopsy: resolution of steatohepatitis without worsening of fibrosis, or improvement in fibrosis without worsening of…

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u/britt_abubakar38 points·5 months ago

Push back: the evidence here is phase 2, in a specific population, and it does not support a general ranking.

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u/cato_batista41 points·5 months ago

MASH endpoints are histological, which is a much harder bar

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u/old_account_2023OP30 points·5 months ago

MASH endpoints are histological, which is a much harder bar

Disagreeing with this bit: that number comes from a different programme with a different population.

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u/certified_referenceQC19 points·5 months ago

Disagree — that is a weight endpoint from a different programme and you are quoting it in a hepatic context.

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u/tired_ledger_ftw24 points·5 months ago

That figure is from the obesity programme, and this thread is about the hepatic one.

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u/britt_okwuosa8 points·5 months ago

fibrosis improvement without worsening steatohepatitis is the phrase to learn

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u/tomas_lokken56 points·5 months ago

Phase 2 in a biopsy-confirmed population is a demanding design: recruitment is slow, the population is specific, and the results do not generalise to people who have not been characterised that way.

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u/zeynep_villalobos19 points·5 months ago

a liver endpoint is not a weight endpoint with better marketing

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u/tired_ledger_ftw16 points·5 months ago

Went slowly because everything published describes a deliberate escalation. That is the extent of what I will say about it.

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u/rania_salinas7 points·5 months ago

biopsy-confirmed is not the same as imaging-suggested

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