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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/freya_onwuka

does fake COA actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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does fake COA actually matter or is it forum lore at this point. I would rather ask a basic question now than get this wrong quietly for two months.

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

That is everything I have. The rest is opinion and I have tried to keep it out.

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u/osman_brandt944 points·1 year ago

Ask for the batch-specific certificate before payment. Any operation with a quality system behind it can produce one; the request costs you nothing and it filters hard.

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u/whois_wandaMOD575 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that domain so the reports sit in one place.

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u/careful_gradient_notes185 points·1 year ago

Merged into the standing thread for that domain so the reports sit in one place.

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

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u/santiago_rasmussen727 points·1 year ago

Has anyone else in the thread got the same domain in their history?

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u/protein_first_pnutrition606 points·1 year ago

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

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[removed]391 points·1 year ago

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u/tobias_barros-36 points·1 year ago

group buys concentrate risk in one person and nobody plans for that

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u/freya_onwukaOP1 point·1 year ago

The site had a decade of testimonials and a domain registered in March. That was the entire investigation.

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u/ewan_zielinski1 point·1 year ago

report it here with dates, not adjectives

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u/lina_bruun1 point·1 year ago

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

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u/rasmus_kuipers1 point·1 year ago·edited

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

lina_bruun has the group-buy risk right — it is structural, not a judgement about anybody in particular.

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u/milos_vestergaard1 point·1 year ago

ask for a batch-specific document before you send anything

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u/mei_cardoso1 point·1 year ago

a cloned storefront copies the design, never the documentation

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u/ravi_bergstrom1 point·1 year ago

the pattern repeats because it works, not because people are stupid

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u/nordic_pricing365 points·1 year ago·edited

The checks I run before sending money anywhere new, in order, and none of them cost anything.

Domain first, character by character, pasted rather than typed. Then registration age against the claimed trading history. Then a request, in writing, for a batch-specific certificate for the lot they would ship — not the catalogue document.

Then a small order, tested independently. Only after that a real one. This sequence has cost me a handful of small orders and it has never once cost me a large one, which is the whole point.

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u/careful_gradient302 points·1 year ago

no batch number, no date, no method — that is the pattern, not one detail

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u/bianca_demir356 points·1 year ago

Agreed. The clone copies the front page and never the paperwork, because the paperwork is the expensive part.

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u/anders_osei515 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

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u/foam_head_fred231 points·1 year ago

if the price is impossible, the material is the thing being economised on

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u/ismael_pires288 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual.

Agreed. Dates and documents make a report. Adjectives make a thread.

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u/freya_onwukaOP119 points·1 year ago

Is there any independent testing on file for this name anywhere?

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u/freya_onwukaOP50 points·1 year ago

Reported something here with dates and screenshots and was asked for the document trail. Fair challenge, and it made the report worth reading.

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u/priya_palacios169 points·1 year ago

Cosigning the domain check. Character by character, every time, and paste it rather than typing it.

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u/sock_puppet_spotter121 points·1 year ago

Careful. What you are describing is a delayed shipment, and this board should not turn that into an accusation without more.

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u/rasmus_kuipers248 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/fatima_yildiz67 points·1 year ago

Right, and the group-buy structure is the underrated risk here. One person holds everything and there is no recourse designed in.

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u/mikkel_ogunleye126 points·1 year ago·edited

Disagree with naming anyone on that basis. One person’s bad month is not a pattern and the sidebar exists for this exact reason.

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u/rasmus_kuipers72 points·1 year ago·edited

Disagree with naming anyone on that basis.

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

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u/ignacio_silva97 points·1 year ago

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check. A site claiming years of history on a months-old domain is the cheapest signal available.

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u/georgi_tamm37 points·1 year ago

a domain registered last month with a decade of testimonials is the whole tell

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