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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/ghrp_history

the fake COA question that gets asked weekly, answered properly

Pattern The Quiet One ×8

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: the fake COA question that gets asked weekly, answered properly.

Why this board insists on dates and documents rather than names.

A report that says "X is a scam" is unfalsifiable and unactionable. A report that says "ordered on this date, paid this way, asked for a batch document on this date, received this reply, nothing since" can be checked, corroborated, or corrected by somebody with a different experience.

The second kind has repeatedly turned out to be a shipping problem, a payment window, or a misread email. The first kind never turns into anything except an argument, and when it is wrong the cost falls on somebody real.

The checks I run before sending money anywhere new, in order, and none of them cost anything.

Domain first, character by character, pasted rather than typed. Then registration age against the claimed trading history. Then a request, in writing, for a batch-specific certificate for the lot they would ship — not the catalogue document.

Then a small order, tested independently. Only after that a real one. This sequence has cost me a handful of small orders and it has never once cost me a large one, which is the whole point.

Now I buy small from anyone new, test it, and only then commit. It has cost me a few small orders and saved me one large one.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/farid_kuipers106 points·1 year ago

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

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u/dose_diary_danalog keeper35 points·1 year ago

That is a report count, not a test count, and it changes how thin the evidence base actually is.

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u/lukas_delgado29 points·1 year ago

Correction: that domain is one character different from the one you posted, which is rather the point of this thread.

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u/halima_boateng14 points·1 year ago

no batch number, no date, no method — that is the pattern, not one detail

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u/careful_gradient_notes55 points·1 year ago

a shop that will only talk off-platform has told you something

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u/rasmus_kuipers15 points·1 year ago

Disagree with naming anyone on that basis. One person’s bad month is not a pattern and the sidebar exists for this exact reason.

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u/divya_bakken57 points·1 year ago

never accuse an individual, describe what happened to you

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u/tired_ledger_notes27 points·1 year ago

Push back: "nobody has tested them" is a fact about this board, not a fact about the company. Say the first one.

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u/isabela_nilsen18 points·1 year ago

never accuse an individual, describe what happened to you

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

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u/whois_wandaMOD37 points·1 year ago·edited

Merged into the standing thread for that domain so the reports sit in one place.

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u/nikhil_teixeira38 points·1 year ago

no names without evidence, that is the sidebar rule and it is a good one

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u/jarno_cabrera-38 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

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u/neha_mwangi1 point·1 year ago

Yes. The thin-evidence names in the directory are thin because nobody has anything on them, which is a different statement from a warning.

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u/bilal_adebayo1 point·1 year ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/ghrp_historyOP1 point·1 year ago

The site had a decade of testimonials and a domain registered in March. That was the entire investigation.

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u/zaid_eriksen1 point·1 year ago

the review page nobody can find on any other site is a warning

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u/soren_yildiz31 points·1 year ago

Small fix — the name you are describing is in the wider-market table with almost nothing on file, not in the documented twenty.

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u/emil_wojcik17 points·1 year ago

Cosigning the domain check. Character by character, every time, and paste it rather than typing it.

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u/stubborn_batchlist_pls19 points·1 year ago

Nearly paid a cloned storefront. Caught it because one character in the domain was wrong and I paste rather than type.

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