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c/reconstitution·posted 1 year ago by u/RetaAndRegret2

units — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right

Correction Slow Clap ×4 Receipts ×3 Well Actually ×2

Thinking out loud about this: units — 21 things I got wrong before I got it right.

The dead space question sent me down a rabbit hole for a week. It is a fraction of a unit and it is the same every draw.

Started reconstituting everything to a round concentration and the six-in-the-morning error rate went to zero.

Wrote the date on the vial as well as the concentration after losing track of which one was opened first.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/runa_grimaldi419 points·1 year ago

If your calculation produces a fraction of a unit, the concentration is wrong for your dose. Change the water volume until the numbers land on whole units.

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u/lurker_for_years213 points·1 year ago

Why "more water" keeps confusing people, including me for a month.

The vial contains a fixed amount of peptide. Water changes nothing about that amount. What it changes is concentration, and concentration is the divisor between the dose you want and the volume you draw.

So doubling the water halves the concentration and doubles the units for the same dose. Nothing is diluted in any sense that matters; you are simply reading a bigger number off the same barrel. Pick the water volume that puts your usual dose on a whole number of units and life gets easier.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting252 points·1 year ago

I would not round that figure. At 10mg/mL a rounding error of two units is a real fraction of the intended amount.

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u/emeka_delgado151 points·1 year ago·edited

do the arithmetic before you reconstitute, not while holding a syringe

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u/clara_weiss159 points·1 year ago

Right — the volume you add is the only variable you control here, and the cake does not change it meaningfully.

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u/RetaAndRegret2OP93 points·1 year ago·edited

How many mg in the vial and how many mL are you adding?

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u/julia_erdogan58 points·1 year ago

Yes. Writing 2.5mg/mL on the vial takes four seconds and removes the entire class of error this board exists to fix.

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u/britta_nakamura37 points·1 year ago

Yes.

Disagreeing with this line only: adding more water is not a safety margin, it is a different divisor.

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u/ilias_cabrera75 points·1 year ago

the powder cake sits at the bottom, the volume you add is the volume that counts

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u/elodie_grimaldi41 points·1 year ago

What is written on the vial right now?

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u/vial_math_veraMOD112 points·1 year ago

Corrected the concentration in the title, which contradicted the body. Nothing else touched.

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u/oskar_ibarra67 points·1 year ago

That is sterile water, not bacteriostatic. Same appearance, different product, and it matters for a multi-draw vial.

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u/RetaAndRegret2OP27 points·1 year ago

Correction: that gives 10 units, not what you have written. 30mg into 2mL is 15mg/mL and the division follows from there.

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u/spain_receta16 points·1 year ago

Did the maths give you a whole number of units, or a fraction?

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u/india_generic_g47 points·1 year ago

The whole calculation, once, with real numbers.

You have a 10mg vial. You add 1mL of bacteriostatic water. Concentration is mass over volume: 10mg/mL. A U-100 insulin syringe is graduated at 100 units per millilitre, so one unit is 0.01mL.

To draw 5mg you need 5 divided by 10 millilitres, which is 50 units on the barrel. Write "10mg/mL" on the vial in marker before you put it away, and you never have to do this again for that vial.

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u/mateusz_achebe12 points·1 year ago

What concentration did you actually reconstitute at, rather than what did you intend to?

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u/sock_puppet_spotter0 points·1 year ago

That only works if the fill weight is exactly the label weight, and it usually is not exactly anything.

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u/karl_fischer_kev51 points·1 year ago

Bacteriostatic water contains benzyl alcohol as a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into the same vial reasonable. Plain sterile water has no preservative.

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u/soren_zamora39 points·1 year ago

Aim the stream down the wall of the vial rather than into the cake. Reconstitution is a solubility problem, not a mixing problem, and mechanical shear does nothing helpful.

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u/elodie_grimaldi23 points·1 year ago

Spent 10 weeks confused about this until somebody drew the table for me. 10mg, 2mL, 5mg/mL, 0.5mg is 10 units. That is the whole thing.

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u/runa_cabrera16 points·1 year ago

Asked SSA what volume they reconstitute to for their own stability testing and they answered in one line. Useful thing to know.

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u/elodie_grimaldi8 points·1 year ago

Bacteriostatic or plain sterile water?

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u/tomas_kimani16 points·1 year ago

if the maths gives you a fraction of a unit, change the concentration

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u/soren_zamora24 points·1 year ago

Pushback on the syringe advice: a U-100 barrel reads units of volume. Calling them "doses" is how the confusion starts.

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u/oskar_ibarra14 points·1 year ago

Shook the first vial because nobody told me not to. It was fine, but I have swirled every one since.

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u/aurel_boateng39 points·1 year ago

Adding more water does not change how much peptide is in the vial. It changes the concentration, which changes the volume you draw for the same amount. That is the entire relationship.

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u/signe_grimaldi0 points·1 year ago

Not quite. Bacteriostatic and sterile water are not interchangeable for a multi-draw vial, and the difference is the preservative.

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