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c/orforglipron·posted 5 days ago by u/chidi_yilmaz

[Trial Data] ATTAIN-1 numbers, and why the % is not the headline

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ATTAIN-1 numbers, and why the % is not the headline. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Read both programme names carefully after mixing them up in a comment and being politely corrected.

Nothing containing this compound is approved by any regulator, and research-use-only material is not approved for human use.

Assumed the peptide purity conversations transferred and they do not. Different analytical problem entirely.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use and nothing here should be read as a recommendation to use it.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD57 points·4 days ago

Corrected a cross-class dose comparison in the title. The body is untouched.

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u/erez_yilmaz22 points·3 days ago

Daily dosing, so what does the exposure profile look like across the day?

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u/greta_nilsen47 points·3 days ago

Milligram-for-milligram comparison with an injectable peptide is not meaningful and I should not have made it.

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u/chidi_yilmazOP24 points·3 days ago·edited

What did the tolerability table look like at that dose?

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u/pancreatitis_scare43 points·4 days ago

The analytical point, which this board keeps getting wrong by importing habits from the peptide side.

For a peptide, purity is typically reported as area percent by HPLC with identity by mass spectrometry, and the impurity classes are things like deletion and oxidation products. For a small molecule the relevant impurities are synthetic intermediates, degradants and residual solvents, and identity is established differently.

So the certificate you would want looks different, the questions to ask are different, and a "purity" figure quoted here is not comparable to one quoted on the peptide boards. Anybody posting a result should say what method produced it, which is good practice everywhere and essential here.

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u/emil_marchand47 points·4 days ago

Which programme and which readout are you quoting?

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u/cato_batista28 points·4 days ago

oral and non-peptide is the whole engineering story

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u/marit_laurent22 points·3 days ago

identity testing on a small molecule is a different analytical problem

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u/nils_ferreira24 points·4 days ago

Are you comparing doses across a small molecule and a peptide?

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u/hana_lehtinen15 points·3 days ago

Careful — purity methods for peptides do not read across to a small molecule and the numbers are not equivalent.

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u/neha_mwangi5 points·3 days ago

Same view. The analytical problem is different enough that the usual purity discussions here do not transfer cleanly.

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u/neha_krastev12 points·3 days ago

Cosigning on daily dosing. It changes the exposure profile and it changes adherence, in both directions.

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u/yannick_salinas9 points·3 days ago

the manufacturing story is genuinely different from the injectables

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