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c/newbiequestions·posted 2 years ago by u/viktor_kirchner

am I the only one who found first time harder than the injections

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am I the only one who found first time harder than the injections. I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

Appetite change and weight change are different measurements on different timescales. The first is usually noticed first and the second lags it.

Concentration is mass over volume, and a U-100 syringe reads 100 units per millilitre. Those two facts are the whole of the arithmetic this board keeps explaining.

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. That is a plain statement of regulatory fact and it belongs in every beginner thread.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/mateusz_adebayo678 points·2 years ago·edited

Bacteriostatic water contains a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into a vial reasonable. Sterile water does not, and the two are not interchangeable for that purpose.

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u/wholesome_lurkerMOD387 points·2 years ago

Flair set to Question and the wiki page linked in a comment rather than in place of an answer.

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u/muscle_cramp_mo518 points·2 years ago

the starting dose is not meant to be the dose that works

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u/pavel_kravchenko412 points·2 years ago

Correction: the starting dose is a tolerance step rather than a treatment dose. The distinction is the answer to the question above.

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u/saskia_bakker359 points·2 years ago

read the wiki first, then ask anyway

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u/renal_outcomes_rnephro-curious428 points·2 years ago

Small correction, said kindly: those are two different products with similar names, and the difference matters for a multi-draw vial.

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u/sofia_petrescu170 points·2 years ago

That is area percent from a certificate, not the amount of peptide in the vial. Two different numbers and a very common mix-up.

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u/due_diligence_dee22 points·2 years ago

Has the appetite changed, even if the scale has not?

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd218 points·2 years ago

The vocabulary, once, since half the questions here are really vocabulary questions.

Titration is stepping the dose up slowly for tolerance. Reconstitution is adding water to a freeze-dried powder. Bacteriostatic water contains a preservative; sterile water does not. COA is a certificate of analysis — a lab document about one batch. Area percent is a purity measure from that document, and it is not the amount of peptide in the vial. Units are a volume on an insulin syringe, not a dose.

That is most of the jargon on this site. The wiki has the longer version of each and it is linked in the sidebar.

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u/elin_trevino172 points·2 years ago

Right, and writing the concentration on the vial is the single best habit anyone here can start with.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd49 points·2 years ago

This. Ask the basic question; the answers are what make the board searchable for the next person.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution153 points·2 years ago

How to ask a question here so that you get a useful answer.

Say what week you are in, whether you are using a pen or a vial, what country you are in, and what you have already read. Those four facts turn a question that gets three contradictory answers into one that gets a specific one.

And do ask. The basic questions get searched for constantly, so a clear answer here helps a stream of people who will never post. The only genuinely unwelcome thing on this board is being unpleasant to somebody for not knowing something yet.

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u/greta_perrin61 points·2 years ago

pens and vials are the same molecule with different logistics

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u/sigrid_kaufmann49 points·2 years ago

write the concentration on the vial, you will thank yourself

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u/greta_chukwu32 points·2 years ago

a COA is a certificate of analysis, the lab document for a batch

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u/karma_irrelevant-22 points·2 years ago

A certificate of analysis is a document describing one batch: what was tested, by what method, and what the result was. Its value depends entirely on whether it names the batch and the method.

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u/laila_delgado1 point·2 years ago

the injection is easier than you are imagining

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u/blunt_coldbox_20241 point·2 years ago

Yes. The starting dose is a tolerance step. It is not supposed to do very much.

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u/liver_enzyme_liz1 point·2 years ago

titration means going slow on the way up

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u/renzo_yildiz1 point·2 years ago

research-use-only material is not approved for human use, and that belongs in every beginner thread

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u/nausea_notesside effects1 point·2 years ago

bacteriostatic water has a preservative, sterile water does not

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u/runa_grimaldi0 points·2 years ago

appetite change usually shows up before the scale does

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u/viktor_kirchnerOP120 points·2 years ago

I confused two very similar words on my first order and asked here, expecting to be mocked. Three people explained it properly instead.

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u/greta_perrin64 points·2 years ago

Correcting my own answer earlier — I said week 21 and the wiki says week 33. The wiki is right.

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u/food_noise_gonemaintenance22 points·2 years ago

Same. The injection was the thing I was most nervous about and the thing that turned out to matter least.

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u/adaeze_cabrera35 points·2 years ago

search first, but a repeat question is not a crime

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u/laila_delgado28 points·2 years ago

I would not panic about that. It is on the list of ordinary first-month experiences.

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