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c/meta·posted 6 months ago by u/wanjiru_osei

unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about ranking is guesswork

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The title is the argument: unpopular opinion: most of what gets said here about ranking is guesswork. Here is the rest of it.

The ranking functions are published: the hot ordering combines score magnitude with age, and the controversial ordering weights total volume by the balance between up and down votes. Both are reproducible from the numbers on each submission.

Funding and links, in full, because the question deserves a straight answer.

Sponsor units are labelled as sponsored. Each vendor source page carries one outbound link to that supplier’s own storefront, marked nofollow and sponsored, so you can read their account of themselves against the record on the page. Nothing is received for those links, no supplier pays for a directory position, and no rating is for sale.

No referral or affiliate links are permitted anywhere on the site, from anybody, including in the pricing threads where the temptation is highest. That rule is the reason those threads are worth reading, and it is enforced without exception. The full version of all of this is on the about page and it is deliberately boring.

What the ranking does, in case you assume it is hiding something.

The hot ordering combines the magnitude of a submission’s score with its age, so that a new post with moderate support can outrank an older one with more. The controversial ordering weights total vote volume by how evenly it splits, so a heavily contested thread rises above a small evenly-split one.

Both are published, and both are reproducible from the score and timestamp shown on every submission — one member here rebuilt the ordering in a spreadsheet to check. The consequence worth knowing is structural: feed position rewards early agreement, so the top comment is frequently not the best answer. Sorting by controversial occasionally is genuinely worth doing.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/ewan_marchand-5 points·6 months ago

The evidence standard on the vendor boards requires a document, a date or a named service behind any claim about a supplier. It is what makes those threads worth reading years later.

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u/katrin_marchetti85 points·6 months ago

Have you read the published formula, genuinely asking?

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u/joaquin_wojcik25 points·6 months ago

Agreed. Publishing the ranking formula is the difference between a feed and a black box, and it costs nothing to do.

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[deleted]34 points·6 months ago

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u/kian_solberg19 points·6 months ago

Yes — a proposal with concrete wording gets discussed. A complaint about the rules in general does not.

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u/prior_auth_painappeals63 points·6 months ago·edited

Push back: the ranking is not hiding anything. The formula is published and you can reproduce the ordering.

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u/mod_ambulatoryMOD26 points·6 months ago

Reminder that no referral or affiliate links are permitted anywhere, from anybody, ever.

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u/enzo_danquah19 points·6 months ago

What is the concrete wording you would replace it with?

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u/camila_sandvik14 points·6 months ago

Feed position is a function of early votes and time. That structurally favours agreeable early answers over correct late ones, which is why sorting by controversial occasionally is worth the effort.

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u/malin_petrescu38 points·6 months ago

Had a post removed, went to modmail, got a specific explanation and disagreed with it politely. It stayed removed and I understood why.

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u/viktor_laurent20 points·6 months ago

This. Modmail first is not bureaucracy; it stops individual cases turning into a public pile-on.

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u/bastian_moreau44 points·6 months ago

Agreed that the top comment is not the best answer. The ranking optimises for early agreement.

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u/kenji_demir27 points·6 months ago

Agreed that the top comment is not the best answer.

bastian_moreau is right that the strict evidence rule is the asset, not the friction.

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u/salma_almeida29 points·6 months ago·edited

Which rule specifically, and which part of it?

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts20 points·6 months ago

Not convinced by the proposal as worded. It would remove the specific thing that makes the vendor board usable.

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u/wanjiru_oseiOP35 points·6 months ago

Read the ranking formula out of scepticism and reproduced the ordering in a spreadsheet. It does what it says.

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u/anders_karlsen10 points·6 months ago

ranked feeds mean the top comment is not the best answer

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u/kian_solberg12 points·6 months ago

this place sells nothing and takes nothing from any supplier

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts14 points·6 months ago

Sorted by controversial for a week and found four of the best threads I have read here.

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