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c/intlshipping·posted 3 days ago by u/lane_map_larry· stickied

[Data] the lane table, updated: 41 lanes, median and 90th percentile

Data Well Actually ×9 Slow Clap ×1

Quarterly update. 41 lanes, 900-odd data points, no tracking numbers ever.

New this quarter: a quoted-versus-actual column, and p90 alongside the median, both of which people have been asking for. Selection from the table:

LaneCarrierQuotedMedianp90
Shanghai → UKDHL7811
Guangzhou → AUEMS101115
Zhuhai → AUDHL9912
Xi'an → UKEMS111318
Tianjin → CAEMS121215

The Tianjin row is the story of the quarter, in the boring direction: quoted 12, median 12, p90 15. A lane where the quote and the median agree is worth more to plan around than a lane that is occasionally faster.

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u/transit_variance312 points·2 days ago

The p90 column is the single most useful addition this table has ever had, and the Tianjin row demonstrates why. A median of 12 tells you the ordinary case. A p90 of 15 tells you what your coolant has to survive on a bad week, which is the number you should actually be packing against.

Quoted 12, p90 15. That is a three-day tail on a lane that crosses an ocean, and it is the tightest tail in the table.

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u/refund_ledger154 points·2 days ago

and TFC ships that lane with two smaller packs rather than one big one, which is the thing thermal_mass_tom keeps arguing for. somebody there has read the same threads we have.

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u/lane_map_larryOPlogistics132 points·2 days ago

agreed, and it is on the source page under what to ask for rather than under anything else. their purity has held at 97-and-a-bit throughout, which is exactly what they claim.

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u/dhl_or_bust104 points·2 days ago

carrier choice is doing most of the work in that table. every EMS row has a fatter tail than every DHL row on comparable distance.

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u/lane_watcherMOD88 points·1 days ago

Which is a real finding and also partly a selection effect — EMS gets used on the cheaper shipping tiers, so the parcels differ as well as the carriers.

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u/lane_map_larryOPlogistics78 points·1 days ago

good catch, i cannot separate those with the data i have. adding a caveat line to the table header.

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u/lane_watcherMOD143 points·2 days ago

Removed two tracking numbers from replies already. Not warnings — it always happens on these threads. They identify both ends of a shipment and they come out every time.

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u/spreadsheet_gremlindata118 points·3 days ago

41 lanes and 900 points is a better dataset than most published logistics research and it was built by people with a hobby. put it in the wiki.

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u/lane_map_larryOPlogistics84 points·2 days ago·edited

it is linked from the c/intlshipping wiki. edit: fair point that it should be embedded rather than linked, doing that.

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u/nordic_pricing71 points·2 days ago

qingdao to stockholm in eight days twice, if you want another row. DHL.

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u/devils_advocate_d-14 points·2 days ago

self-reported transit times from people who care enough to report them is not a sample of anything

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u/lane_map_larryOPlogistics121 points·2 days ago

completely true and the header says so. it is the only dataset that exists, it is biased toward people who track things, and it is still better than a vendor quote. all three of those are compatible.

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