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c/hplc·posted 2 years ago by u/medutest_mel

purity — 19 things I got wrong before I got it right

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purity — 19 things I got wrong before I got it right, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

Area percent is the integrated area of your peak over the total integrated area at one wavelength on one gradient. Change any of those and the number changes without the sample changing.

System suitability — repeat injections, tailing factor, plate count, RSD on area — is what tells you the instrument was fit for the measurement that day. Without it, the purity figure is unanchored.

UV response is not uniform across species. At 214nm you are looking at the peptide bond, which is why it is the working wavelength for this class; at 280nm you only see tryptophan, tyrosine and phenylalanine.

Screenshot none of this. Read the whole thread, including the parts where I am told I am wrong.

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u/hplc_hobbyistMOD712 points·2 years ago

Retitled: the original claimed a comparison the post does not actually make.

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u/liv_okafor173 points·2 years ago

That figure cannot be quoted to two decimals off that baseline. The precision is not in the data.

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u/rania_okonkwo45 points·2 years ago

retention time alone is not identity

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u/step_count_stan657 points·2 years ago

A shoulder that does not baseline-resolve cannot be quantified honestly. You can report it as an unresolved shoulder, which is useful information, or you can develop the method until it resolves.

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u/dizzy_on_standing290 points·2 years ago

system suitability before you believe any number on the run

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u/mariam_cabrera406 points·2 years ago

Bought a second-hand instrument and learned more in six months of fixing it than in three years of reading traces.

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u/crosspost_bot_no284 points·2 years ago

Resolution between two peaks depends on retention, selectivity and efficiency. A shallower gradient buys retention and usually resolution, at the cost of peak width and run time.

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u/freya_baptista156 points·2 years ago

Careful — you are treating retention time as identity. Two things can co-elute and the trace will not tell you.

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u/aksel_palacios75 points·2 years ago

Careful — you are treating retention time as identity.

This is the whole methodological point of the board in one line.

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u/insulin_syringe_ian128 points·2 years ago

Mass spectrometry answers identity. UV purity answers relative quantity under the run conditions. A document with one and not the other is answering half the question, and the half it answers should be stated.

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u/canada_coverage311 points·2 years ago

report the method or do not report the number

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u/valeria_cardoso246 points·2 years ago

Correction: that is a tailing factor, not a plate count. Different diagnostics for different problems.

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u/cormac_roos64 points·2 years ago

Retention time shifted 0.4 minutes and I assumed the worst. It was the column temperature.

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u/joaquin_petrov192 points·2 years ago

axis labels or the trace is decoration

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u/medutest_mel152 points·2 years ago

That is area percent, not mass percent. The trace cannot give you the second one.

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u/joaquin_petrov79 points·2 years ago

Correcting myself upthread: I said the gradient was linear and looking again it has a hold in the middle.

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