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c/glp1uk·posted 2 years ago by u/heart_rate_bump

[Discussion] pharmacy is doing more work than we give it credit for

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pharmacy is doing more work than we give it credit for, which sounds obvious until you try to state the evidence for it.

In England, specialist weight management services are commissioned locally, so eligibility criteria and waiting times differ by ICB. There is no single national threshold to quote.

Discharge from a specialist service at goal is a normal end point of that pathway. Whether prescribing continues in primary care afterwards is a local decision and is worth asking about at the start rather than at the end.

Supply notices from the regulator describe expected availability at a national level. They do not predict what any individual pharmacy has on the shelf next week.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/gradient_goblin181 points·2 years ago

Why the monthly pricing tracker works, and the rule that makes it work.

Members post the pharmacy, the product, the month and the price they actually paid — not an advertised offer, not a first-month discount. No links of any kind are permitted, which removes the entire incentive to post anything other than what happened.

The result is that the spread between pharmacies in a given month is visible, and it is consistently larger than people expect. That single table has saved members here more money than every other thread on the board combined, and it survives only because the no-links rule is enforced without exception.

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u/bence_ibarra89 points·2 years ago

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own arrangements. An answer that begins with "in England" should say so, and most of the confusion here comes from answers that do not.

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u/hassan_castellanos53 points·2 years ago

the Irish scheme cap is the single most useful fact in this board

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u/bence_ibarra13 points·2 years ago·edited

Two years and four months on a tier 3 list. Referral date and every letter kept, which turned out to matter when the service reorganised.

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u/teodor_duarte51 points·2 years ago

Disagree. That is the pathway in one ICB and it does not generalise even to the next one over.

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u/enzo_fonseca25 points·2 years ago

Disagree.

teodor_duarte is right that the two routes are separate. A private prescription does not move you up the list.

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u/declared_value_dv26 points·2 years ago

NHS pathway or private prescription?

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u/pavel_kravchenko23 points·2 years ago

Yes — four nations, four pathways, and threads that ignore that give people the wrong answer confidently.

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u/solene_ilunga57 points·2 years ago

the price difference between pharmacies this month is genuinely large

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u/rina_nascimento13 points·2 years ago

Concentrations can differ between products and between pharmacies. Switching mid-titration means redoing the arithmetic rather than carrying the old unit count across.

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u/sock_puppet_spotter7 points·2 years ago

Same. My ICB threshold was different from the neighbouring one and nobody could tell me why.

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u/pavel_kravchenko8 points·2 years ago

Concentrations can differ between products and between pharmacies.

Adding the practical bit — ask what happens at discharge before you start, not after.

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u/marit_mensa21 points·2 years ago

private and NHS pathways are not a ladder, they are separate routes

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u/ilias_nakamura16 points·2 years ago

A private prescription is an independent route: it does not affect NHS list position, and it is not a step in the same pathway.

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