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c/glp1science·submitted 8 months ago by u/marisol_kravchenko

receptor is the most under-discussed thing on this board

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Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: receptor is the most under-discussed thing on this board. Tolerance to the gastric effect develops with continued exposure while the appetite effect largely persists. That single fact explains most of the "it settles but it still works" pattern the side-effect board…

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u/formulary_fighterappeals48 points·8 months ago·edited

Push back: a receptor being expressed in a tissue does not tell you the agonist reaches it at therapeutic exposure.

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u/hassan_castellanos28 points·8 months ago·edited

Push back: a receptor being expressed in a tissue does not tell you the agonist reaches it at therapeutic exposure.

formulary_fighter is right that mechanism gives direction and not magnitude. Worth pinning.

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u/rasmus_kimani0 points·8 months ago

formulary_fighter is right that mechanism gives direction and not magnitude.

This is the concept everything else on this board is downstream of.

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u/anya_salgado40 points·8 months ago

GLP-1 receptor agonism acts both peripherally — insulin secretion in a glucose-dependent way, slowed gastric emptying — and centrally, on appetite regulation. The central component is the better explanation for sustained intake reduction.

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u/trialwatch_theotrial nerd14 points·8 months ago

This. Albumin binding and modification are why the half-life is what it is, and it is a design decision rather than an accident.

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u/plain_titration8 points·8 months ago

Yes. The central component is the one that explains the reports on this site better than gastric emptying does.

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u/employer_carveout2 points·8 months ago

a mechanism you can state is not a mechanism you have demonstrated

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u/marisol_kravchenko1 point·8 months ago

tolerance to the gastric effect develops, appetite effect largely persists

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u/split_dose_sceptic14 points·8 months ago

Agreed that receptor distribution is the key to the side-effect map. It is not a mystery, it is anatomy.

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u/rafael_ostergaard10 points·8 months ago

Was completely wrong about the gastric emptying story in a thread here two years ago. Someone corrected me with a citation and I have not made that mistake since.

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u/devils_advocate_d2 points·8 months ago

preclinical is not clinical and rodents are not small people

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u/emeka_chowdhury4 points·8 months ago

the central appetite effect is doing more work than the gut effect

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