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c/glp1science·submitted 4 months ago by u/not_my_main_nm

[Meta] the mechanism rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining

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Putting this to the board: the mechanism rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining. The half-life explanation was the thing that made weekly dosing intuitive for me rather than arbitrary. Was completely wrong about the gastric emptying story in a thread here two years ago. Someone corrected me with a…

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u/rafael_ostergaard30 points·4 months ago

gastric emptying slows, it does not stop

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u/second_week_sceptic21 points·4 months ago

Does the effect persist with continued dosing or does tolerance develop?

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u/karma_irrelevant18 points·4 months ago

Why mechanism talk keeps misleading people, including me.

A mechanism tells you a direction. It does not tell you a magnitude, a timescale, or whether the pathway is operative at the exposures involved. "Receptor X is expressed in tissue Y" is a fact; "therefore effect Z in a person" is a hypothesis with several missing steps.

The corrective is boring and it works: ask whether the evidence is preclinical or human, ask what exposure was used, and read the limitations section before the abstract. Most of the confidently wrong posts on this board — several of them mine — skipped all three.

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u/not_my_main_nmOP0 points·4 months ago

Correcting my own comment: I attributed that to the GIP arm and the paper attributes it to the GLP-1 arm.

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u/hassan_castellanos13 points·4 months ago

Right — mechanism gives you a direction. It never gives you an effect size and people use it as though it does.

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u/flair_enthusiast13 points·4 months ago

preclinical is not clinical and rodents are not small people

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