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c/glp1science·posted 1 months ago by u/hassan_ostergaard

biased agonism: real, interesting, almost certainly irrelevant to your dose

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biased agonism: real, interesting, almost certainly irrelevant to your dose. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Was completely wrong about the gastric emptying story in a thread here two years ago. Someone corrected me with a citation and I have not made that mistake since.

Receptor expression in a tissue is necessary but not sufficient for an effect. You also need the agonist to reach it at relevant exposure, and that is where a lot of confident mechanism talk falls down.

Read the primary paper after arguing about the summary for a fortnight. The discussion section said almost the opposite of what the thread had concluded.

Please do not ask me what dose you should be on. I genuinely do not know and neither does anyone else here.

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u/mod_ambulatoryadmin45 points·29 days ago

GIP receptor biology is genuinely unsettled — there is a live argument about agonism versus antagonism at the receptor — and the clinical results are robust regardless, which is an uncomfortable and interesting position.

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u/elin_lundgren12 points·29 days ago·edited

Small fix — it slows gastric emptying, it does not halt it, and the distinction matters for the mechanism you are proposing.

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u/maintenance_mode_maxmaintenance30 points·29 days ago

Yes. The discussion section is where the authors say what they actually think, and almost nobody here reads it.

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u/anders_kuusela-4 points·29 days ago

Right — mechanism gives you a direction. It never gives you an effect size and people use it as though it does.

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u/anders_kuusela35 points·29 days ago

Agreed that receptor distribution is the key to the side-effect map. It is not a mystery, it is anatomy.

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u/gastric_emptying_gMOD20 points·29 days ago·edited

Left up and flaired Explainer. This is the standard of post the board was created for.

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u/plain_titration15 points·28 days ago

Went looking for human data on a mechanism everybody here asserts. Found preclinical work and one small study. That was clarifying.

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u/farid_kuipers16 points·28 days ago

This. Albumin binding and modification are why the half-life is what it is, and it is a design decision rather than an accident.

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u/formulary_fighterappeals6 points·28 days ago

incretin effect first, then everything else in this board makes sense

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u/hassan_ostergaardOP6 points·28 days ago

Spent an evening on the receptor distribution literature and the side-effect map suddenly stopped looking random.

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u/gradient_goblin2 points·28 days ago

mechanism explains a direction, not a magnitude

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