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c/glp1aus·posted 1 year ago by u/laila_dumitru

the TGA thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

TGA Well Actually ×2

the TGA thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. Making the case below, and I expect to lose some of it in the comments.

Rang three pharmacies for a private price and got three different numbers, all in the same city.

Checked the shortage database myself instead of reading the coverage. Expected resolution date was right there and the panic thread was wrong.

Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.

Would rather be corrected in public than confident in private.

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u/tl_dr_tina71 points·1 year ago

The two decisions that this whole board turns on, kept apart.

Registration means a product may lawfully be supplied. Subsidy listing means the public system will fund it, for a defined indication, against published criteria. They are made by different bodies on different timetables, and a product can be registered and unsubsidised for a given use for a long time.

Almost every "why can I not get this" thread here is really a question about the second decision being answered with facts about the first. Say which one you are asking about and the thread resolves in two replies.

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u/lyophile_lou19 points·1 year ago

On the compounded supply question, which changed and left a trail of superseded threads.

The arrangements that governed compounded supply here have changed materially, and a great deal of what is written on this board describes the previous position. Search results do not carry a date warning, so people arrive at old threads and act on them.

If you are reading anything on this subject here, check when it was posted and check the current official position before relying on it. And if you know the current position well, writing it up plainly with a date on it is probably the single most useful thing anyone can post on this board this year.

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u/britta_nakamura31 points·1 year ago

do not import US advice into an Australian thread

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics22 points·1 year ago

Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements. An answer for one is not evidence about the other.

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u/sarcopenia_watch60 points·1 year ago

The compounded arrangements changed while I was mid-thread and I was arguing from a superseded position.

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u/kavya_kravchenko25 points·1 year ago

I would not treat one pharmacy’s quote as the national price. Variation between them is substantial.

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u/marta_ilunga29 points·1 year ago·edited

Yes — the shortage database is the source. The news coverage of it is downstream and usually a week behind.

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u/blunt_coldbox_202447 points·1 year ago

What did the pharmacy quote for the private price?

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u/laila_dumitruOP25 points·1 year ago

Read the published criteria for my indication rather than asking. Twenty minutes, and it answered everything I had been guessing at.

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u/ismael_pires31 points·1 year ago

Assumed the New Zealand position applied here. It does not, and someone corrected me politely with the actual source.

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u/fridge_door_no23 points·1 year ago

Right, and the compounded supply position moved. Threads from two years ago are describing a different situation.

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u/arne_ndiaye12 points·1 year ago·edited

Are you quoting advice from before the compounded arrangements changed?

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics6 points·1 year ago

That is a pharmacy-level stock issue rather than a national supply issue. They feel identical and are not.

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u/anecdata_annie17 points·1 year ago

Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.

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u/laila_dumitruOP13 points·1 year ago

Is this about registration or about subsidy?

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u/laila_dumitruOP10 points·1 year ago

Australia or New Zealand?

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u/dario_bakken15 points·1 year ago

the TGA shortage database is public and it is the source, not the news

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u/aussie_pbs_watchAU5 points·1 year ago

Yes — importing US threads into an Australian question produces confident nonsense every single time.

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u/clara_weiss11 points·1 year ago·edited

PBS-subsidised or private script?

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u/sena_balogun13 points·1 year ago

Compounded supply arrangements have changed materially in recent years. Advice predating that change describes a situation that no longer applies.

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u/clara_weiss9 points·1 year ago

private script pricing varies by pharmacy here too

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