someone explain New Zealand to me like I have not read a paper in years
Genuine question, and the title is the question: someone explain New Zealand to me like I have not read a paper in years.
Australia and New Zealand have different regulators, different funding bodies and different arrangements. An answer for one is not evidence about the other.
The national shortage database is a primary source with expected resolution dates attached. It is public, searchable, and consistently more accurate than reporting about it.
Registration by the therapeutic goods regulator establishes that a product may be supplied. Subsidy listing is a separate decision about public funding, with its own criteria and its own timetable.
Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.
best — the order this archive was captured in
Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.
Compounded supply arrangements have changed materially in recent years. Advice predating that change describes a situation that no longer applies.
personal importation rules exist and are narrow
Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.
the shortage listing has an expected resolution date on it
That figure is a private price at one pharmacy, not a national one.
the price you pay depends on the listing status of your indication
Australia and New Zealand are separate systems and get conflated weekly
Did the pharmacy check with the wholesaler, or is that a shelf observation?
Asked the pharmacist to check the wholesaler and had a definite answer in about four minutes.
Small fix — that is the New Zealand arrangement, and the question is about Australia.
Push back: the compounded arrangements changed and the advice you are quoting predates the change.
Left up. It links the primary database rather than coverage of it, which is what we ask for.
Disagree — that is registration status, and the question was about subsidy. Different decisions, different bodies.
Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.
Someone posted US advice in an Australian thread and it took four replies to untangle it. Say your country.
Checked the shortage database myself instead of reading the coverage. Expected resolution date was right there and the panic thread was wrong.
Cosigning on asking the pharmacy to check the wholesaler. It converts speculation into a fact in one phone call.
The two decisions that this whole board turns on, kept apart.
Registration means a product may lawfully be supplied. Subsidy listing means the public system will fund it, for a defined indication, against published criteria. They are made by different bodies on different timetables, and a product can be registered and unsubsidised for a given use for a long time.
Almost every "why can I not get this" thread here is really a question about the second decision being answered with facts about the first. Say which one you are asking about and the thread resolves in two replies.
compounded supply arrangements changed and the threads have not caught up
compounded supply arrangements changed and the threads have not caught up
Agreed — the database rather than the coverage, every time.
Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing. They are made by different bodies.
say which state only if it matters, but always say which country
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