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c/bpc157·posted 2 months ago by u/honest_syringe24

[Discussion] regulatory is doing more work than we give it credit for

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regulatory is doing more work than we give it credit for — a position I have arrived at slowly and would like tested.

Regulatory classification differs between jurisdictions and has changed in several of them recently. Any answer to a status question needs a place and a date attached.

Paid for identity confirmation rather than just purity for the first time here. Worth it, and it is not the default on most certificates.

Ask for the theoretical mass alongside the measured one. It is a one-line addition to a certificate and it converts a purity claim into an identity claim.

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u/rosa_almeida80 points·2 months ago

Research-use-only material is not approved for human use. In this board that is not a formality — it is the reason the clinical evidence base is as thin as it is.

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u/anders_vermeulen55 points·2 months ago

Is that a clinical claim or a preclinical one?

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u/arne_ilunga37 points·2 months ago

What jurisdiction are you asking about? The answer has changed in several.

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u/honest_syringe24OP29 points·2 months ago

Which paper is that claim from, and was it in humans?

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u/arne_ilunga19 points·2 months ago

Not convinced. A high purity figure with no identity confirmation tells you the sample is homogeneous, not that it is what you ordered.

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u/tomas_kimani16 points·2 months ago

short peptides are cheap, which cuts both ways

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u/mei_serrano12 points·2 months ago

Purity by area percent tells you the sample is homogeneous. Mass spectrometry tells you what the homogeneous thing is. For a short peptide, the second question is the one worth paying for.

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u/viktor_laurent31 points·2 months ago·edited

The published literature is overwhelmingly preclinical, largely in rodent models. Translating a rodent result into a human expectation is not a small step, and almost every confident claim here takes it silently.

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u/ruben_cabrera27 points·2 months ago

Reconstituted or powder, and how long has it been in solution?

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u/katrin_girard7 points·2 months ago

It is a fifteen-residue peptide with a published sequence, which makes synthesis straightforward and makes identity verification the meaningful test rather than an optional extra.

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u/elin_varga-35 points·2 months ago

Was there identity confirmation, or only a purity figure?

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro1 point·2 months ago

Small fix — fifteen residues, not seventeen. The sequence is public and easy to check.

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u/nurse_ish_202514 points·2 months ago·edited

Went and read the primary rodent papers after arguing about a summary for a week. They are much narrower than the threads suggest.

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u/baseline_drifteranalytical10 points·2 months ago

Short peptides in solution are subject to hydrolysis and, depending on sequence, oxidation. Storage state and time in solution are practical variables that this board almost never discusses.

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u/marta_trevino1 point·2 months ago

research-use-only means not approved for human use, and here that covers everything

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u/honest_syringe24OP1 point·2 months ago

Bought small, tested identity first, and only then thought about anything else. That order felt right.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain8 points·2 months ago

ask for the mass spectrum, not just the purity number

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u/nils_ferreira4 points·2 months ago

identity, quantity, stability — three separate questions

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u/chain_confirm_cpayments2 points·2 months ago

sequence confirmation is the test worth paying for

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u/marta_weiss1 point·2 months ago

Agreed. Identity is the question here. A short peptide can be synthesised by almost anyone and the sequence is what you are actually buying.

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