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c/bloodwork·posted 2 years ago by u/signe_grimaldi

how much of what we believe about ApoB actually comes from baseline labs threads

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Question in the title, detail here: how much of what we believe about ApoB actually comes from baseline labs threads.

Reference intervals are typically the central 95% of a reference population. By construction one person in twenty falls outside one on any given test without anything being wrong.

Different laboratories use different assay platforms with different calibration. Comparing across labs adds a systematic offset that is invisible on the report.

Time of day, fasting state, hydration and recent exercise all move common markers. Standardising the draw conditions is free and it removes most of the apparent variability.

Happy to answer the boring questions. Those are usually the ones worth asking.

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u/tidy_vialdrawer_watch85 points·2 years ago

How to make a panel worth comparing, which is most of the value people leave on the table.

Standardise the conditions: same lab, same fasting state, same rough time of day, same point in the week, similar hydration. Take a baseline before you change anything. Repeat any surprising value before acting on it. Change one thing at a time if you want to attribute anything to it.

Do that and a year of panels is a trend. Skip it and a year of panels is a collection of unrelated mornings, which is what most of the alarmed posts here are actually describing.

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u/signe_grimaldiOP37 points·2 years ago

Panicked about a single result, posted here, got told to repeat it, repeated it, and it was fine.

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u/anders_vermeulen52 points·2 years ago

That is a non-fasting value and the interval you are comparing it against is a fasting one.

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u/signe_grimaldi56 points·2 years ago

Did anything else change in that window — training, intake, hydration?

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u/signe_grimaldiOP41 points·2 years ago

Draw at the same point in the week now, fasting, same lab. The noise dropped enormously once I standardised.

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u/forest_plot_fionastats46 points·2 years ago·edited

Push back: a value just outside a reference interval is a common finding in healthy people. It is a reason to repeat.

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