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c/survodutide·submitted 1 year ago by u/renzo_asante

genuine question about dual agonist that I am slightly embarrassed to ask

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Slightly embarrassed to be asking this, but: genuine question about dual agonist that I am slightly embarrassed to ask. Imaging-derived liver fat fraction is a surrogate. It correlates with histology imperfectly, and a trial reporting one is not reporting the other. Nothing containing this compound is approved…

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u/customs_seizure_sid24 points·1 year ago

Agreed. The hepatic programme is the point of this compound and the weight discussion is a side effect of the side effect.

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u/annika_fonseca16 points·1 year ago

That figure is from the obesity programme, and this thread is about the hepatic one.

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u/liv_vukovic12 points·1 year ago

Phase 2 in a biopsy-confirmed population is a demanding design: recruitment is slow, the population is specific, and the results do not generalise to people who have not been characterised that way.

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u/ismael_nwosu18 points·1 year ago

research material is not approved for human use, which is why the clinical record here is thin

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u/lina_ndiaye9 points·1 year ago

research material is not approved for human use, which is why the clinical record here is thin

Disagreeing with this bit: that number comes from a different programme with a different population.

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u/renzo_asanteOP14 points·1 year ago

Correction: that is the imaging endpoint, not the histological one. The paper reports both and they differ substantially.

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u/old_account_20235 points·1 year ago

glucagon agonism and energy expenditure is the mechanistic thread

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u/milos_mensa2 points·1 year ago

the weight numbers are secondary to what this is being developed for

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u/teodor_szabo0 points·1 year ago

Agreed.

Agreed — and the endpoint definitions are where the actual claim lives.

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