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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/scam_taxonomy

does scam actually matter or is it forum lore at this point

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does scam actually matter or is it forum lore at this point. I would rather ask a basic question now than get this wrong quietly for two months.

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/foam_head_fred221 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

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u/anders_osei120 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual.

foam_head_fred has the group-buy risk right — it is structural, not a judgement about anybody in particular.

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts65 points·1 year ago

Small fix — the name you are describing is in the wider-market table with almost nothing on file, not in the documented twenty.

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u/blunt_coldbox_20240 points·1 year ago

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

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u/archived_thread_a1 point·1 year ago

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly".

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

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u/santiago_rasmussen1 point·1 year ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution1 point·1 year ago

never accuse an individual, describe what happened to you

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u/laila_wikstrom1 point·1 year ago

Adding the practical version: buy small from anyone new, test it, then decide.

Agreed. Dates and documents make a report. Adjectives make a thread.

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u/meera_oyelaran1 point·1 year ago

Careful. What you are describing is a delayed shipment, and this board should not turn that into an accusation without more.

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u/mei_cardoso1 point·1 year ago

Push back: "nobody has tested them" is a fact about this board, not a fact about the company. Say the first one.

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u/coa_forgery_watchMOD84 points·1 year ago

Removed — names an individual. That rule has no exceptions here, including when the account turns out to be accurate.

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u/ines_ekstrom67 points·1 year ago

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

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[removed]46 points·1 year ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/fatima_yildiz16 points·1 year ago

group buys concentrate risk in one person and nobody plans for that

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u/nikhil_teixeira9 points·1 year ago

Yes. The thin-evidence names in the directory are thin because nobody has anything on them, which is a different statement from a warning.

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting13 points·1 year ago

ask for a batch-specific document before you send anything

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts30 points·1 year ago

That is a report count, not a test count, and it changes how thin the evidence base actually is.

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u/scam_taxonomyOPc/scamalerts0 points·1 year ago

Do you have anything in writing from before the payment?

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts-20 points·1 year ago

The group-buy structure, described neutrally, because the arguments here always get personal.

One person collects money, places one order, receives it, splits it and forwards it. That structure concentrates payment, custody and communication in a single point with no contract, no escrow and no recourse designed in. It is not an allegation about any organiser to say so.

What follows from it: the failure mode is silence rather than dispute, the people exposed have no visibility, and there is nothing to escalate to. If you take part, take part knowing the shape of what you have agreed to.

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u/whois_wanda1 point·1 year ago

Ask for the batch-specific certificate before payment. Any operation with a quality system behind it can produce one; the request costs you nothing and it filters hard.

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u/tomas_lundgren1 point·1 year ago

if the price is impossible, the material is the thing being economised on

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u/meera_oyelaran1 point·1 year ago·edited

Correction: that domain is one character different from the one you posted, which is rather the point of this thread.

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u/santiago_rasmussen1 point·1 year ago

Correcting my own post: the payment date was the 14th, not the 4th. The gap is smaller than I made it sound.

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