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c/scamalerts·posted 2 years ago by u/pavel_nkemelu

[Discussion] cloned site is doing more work than we give it credit for

Pattern Receipts ×1

Posting this as a discussion rather than a claim: cloned site is doing more work than we give it credit for.

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

Group buys concentrate custody, payment and communication in one person with no structure behind it. That is not an accusation about anyone — it is a description of the risk shape.

If somebody has the same thing measured a different way, post it next to mine and we will see whether they agree.

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u/ewan_zielinski97 points·2 years ago

Domain age, registrar and certificate issuance date are all public and take about a minute to check. A site claiming years of history on a months-old domain is the cheapest signal available.

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u/quiet_moderatormod25 points·2 years ago

Agreed on the no-names rule. It protects the board and it protects people who turn out to be wrong.

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u/pavel_nkemeluOP15 points·2 years ago

a domain registered last month with a decade of testimonials is the whole tell

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u/blunt_coldbox_20240 points·2 years ago

Same. A batch-specific document requested before payment costs nothing and filters an enormous amount.

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u/whois_wanda90 points·2 years ago

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

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u/archived_thread_a132 points·2 years ago·edited

check the domain character by character before you check anything else

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u/whois_wanda110 points·2 years ago·edited

Correction: that domain is one character different from the one you posted, which is rather the point of this thread.

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[removed]32 points·2 years ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts60 points·2 years ago

What is the exact domain, character for character?

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u/whois_wandaMOD50 points·2 years ago

Retitled from an accusation to a description. Same facts, and now the post survives being wrong.

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u/rohan_krastev34 points·2 years ago

Cloned storefronts copy assets, layout and testimonial text. What they cannot easily copy is a batch-specific document that ties to a lot you can then have tested independently.

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u/pavel_nkemeluOP27 points·2 years ago

ask for a batch-specific document before you send anything

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u/isabela_guerrero23 points·2 years ago

Ask for the batch-specific certificate before payment. Any operation with a quality system behind it can produce one; the request costs you nothing and it filters hard.

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u/lina_bruun6 points·2 years ago

no names without evidence, that is the sidebar rule and it is a good one

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u/reflux_report17 points·2 years ago·edited

I would separate the two claims. The site being newly registered is checkable. The motive you are inferring is not.

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