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c/retatrutide·submitted 2 years ago by u/dead_space_doug

someone explain phase 2 to me like I have not read a paper in years

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Genuine question, and the title is the question: someone explain phase 2 to me like I have not read a paper in years. Stopped at a low step because there was no reason to go further and no data to tell me what further would do. The thing that surprised me was how much of the discussion here is inference rather than…

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u/mateusz_mensah463 points·2 years ago

Phase 2 estimates effect and finds a dose range. Phase 3 estimates it precisely in a bigger population and catches what phase 2 was too small to see. Treating them as the same tier of evidence is the recurring error here.

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u/careful_gradient_again108 points·2 years ago

the escalation is where most of the reported trouble sits

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u/ledger_modmod · vetting253 points·2 years ago

Read the phase 2 paper twice before ordering anything. Recommend that to anyone in this board: the error bars are the interesting part.

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u/niels_lindqvist95 points·2 years ago

Independent purity testing on this compound is thin compared with the older molecules, simply because fewer members have paid for it. Fewer results means wider uncertainty, not a verdict.

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