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c/reconstitution·posted 2 years ago by u/elodie_grimaldi

[Meta] the dead space rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining

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the dead space rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining. Comments open, and the wording is genuinely up for discussion.

Bacteriostatic water contains benzyl alcohol as a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into the same vial reasonable. Plain sterile water has no preservative.

Adding more water does not change how much peptide is in the vial. It changes the concentration, which changes the volume you draw for the same amount. That is the entire relationship.

The arithmetic in full: concentration is mass over volume, so 10mg into 1mL gives 10mg/mL. A U-100 syringe is graduated at 100 units per millilitre, so 0.5mg is 0.5 divided by 10 millilitres, which is 5 units.

Please do not ask me what dose you should be on. I genuinely do not know and neither does anyone else here.

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u/anya_antonsen56 points·2 years ago

The lyophilised cake displaces a small volume, so the true concentration is very slightly lower than the arithmetic suggests. It is a fraction of a percent and it is dwarfed by fill tolerance.

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[deleted]20 points·2 years ago

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u/signe_grimaldi44 points·2 years ago

Wrote the date on the vial as well as the concentration after losing track of which one was opened first.

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u/ilias_cabrera28 points·2 years ago

Asked Homopeptide what volume they reconstitute to for their own stability testing and they answered in one line. Useful thing to know.

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u/tl_dr_tina9 points·2 years ago·edited

Yes, and the dead-space point is worth repeating: it is small, it is real, and it is the same for every draw.

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u/bac_water_banditMOD19 points·2 years ago

Left up and flaired Explainer — the numbers in this one check out.

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u/rasmus_kuipers5 points·2 years ago·edited

Aim the stream down the wall of the vial rather than into the cake. Reconstitution is a solubility problem, not a mixing problem, and mechanical shear does nothing helpful.

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u/lurker_for_years12 points·2 years ago

Is that a U-100 syringe? The barrel markings change the answer completely.

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u/a1c_arcT2D4 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the round-number approach. Reconstituting to something awkward is how you end up drawing 27.5 units at six in the morning.

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u/runa_grimaldi9 points·2 years ago

How many mg in the vial and how many mL are you adding?

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u/elodie_grimaldiOP7 points·2 years ago

That is sterile water, not bacteriostatic. Same appearance, different product, and it matters for a multi-draw vial.

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